Kleeneze Agents Ignore Door Signs Again!

robatwork

katejo wrote: »

I did the above with a similar distributor (may not have been Kleenex - it was several years ago). I left one catalogue outside with a polite but firm note to say that I had no interest at all in their products and that any future ones would go straight in the bin. It worked.

If it was Kleenex you should have put it straight in the toilet.

vinnie01

Hey All

I am also a Kleeneze Distribtutor who questions everything. Many people are taught to Ignore the signs on the door regarding Junk Mail. I often mark NJM (No Junk Mail) in the round book but I don't deliver to many houses that has this sign or recently put up this sign due to 1 rude customer who I encountered and another who actually put out the catalogs past 2 months until the last time he pointed to the NJM sign which was not there before and binned it. There are homes that also has the signs saying "We do not buy or sell from Doors" These are another I will miss out. However I do have customers who had these signs on the door from the last rounds where I have delivered to these homes. I started to miss out doors with signs in the new areas as well as some old areas. There was 1 person who had a sign that said No Cold Caller, No canvassors and etc always had her home missed out. This lady rang me up and asked for a book. Also Reasons why I do miss such houses as they are more known to throw your catalogue in the bin and they are quite expensive as they are about £29 for pack of 50 after the 30 day challenge. Many people from Kleeneze are now doing online selling as well as catalogs. There has been areas where I have totally missed these houses out. People that rude, Bin the Catalogs are usually crossed off because I mark these people as Binners or Rude or Plop so they are not done again. As for No Cold Callers I do cross these homes off. However if people miss out on these it is their loss because of their signs I will not post to them. However the customers that had these signs on door are still served.

I have seen few houses who wrote on the note, I do not wish to have any more of these or have another distributor (often written as distros in my book). There are some houses that will put the catalogs back out shortly after putting it through (Plops as we call them) as we do recheck for Plops so we can cross them off if they put one out while on rounds that is if I don't hear them. If I do hear a plop they are usually picked up immediately and used on the next home the plopped home would been marked off. I have many people who has ordered items out of the catalogs and couple of people who kept talking how often they don't see a kleeneze catalog in the neighbourhood.

However these ways wont stop other distributors from posting to the same area as many distributors are taught they are able to post to same areas.

However I don't agree with ideas of people putting such signs on the doors and still buy to me that is Hypocrisy and many Kleeneze Distributors will say that is where to get a lot of your best customers.

There was 1 home who had a sign saying No Agents and No Hawkers.
I personally don't use the term hawkers I thought they were something entirely different to traders.

When a catalog posted in to this home, the owner put a note with all caps.

NO HAWKERS AND NO AGENTS = NO DOOR TO DOOR SALES. This post was scanned and placed on the kleeneze page. Many Distrubutors may of marked that house off. I have crossed this house off. I don't think that house will get any Kleeneze from anyone in the area due to my post unless the upline doesn't tell new distributors about it.

Another thing I also do is randomly cross off few houses that has carried the same pattern of not looking at them before the 6 months are up. If a house is to out of the way and only 1 door I will cross that off if they have not looked before hand as I do notice people leave the catalogs at the door and don't actually look at it, If I see that I do sometimes cross them off depends if I see a similar pattern.

If that house ordered then I will have to carry on serving that house as when the 6 months of blanket dropping all the houses that has not ordered will no longer be delivered to which will only go to customers in each of these roads.

After 6 months many houses that did not order if I have not cross them off before hand will not get anymore because I would of just be dealing with customers and canvassing elsewhere around the customers. That how this kind of stuff works.

Another people do something called Tap and Tell where they knock on door say I am going to leave this catalog with you and walk off. I have not done tap & tell because I am quite talkative and it is time consuming.

reehsetin

melanzana wrote: »

Internet shopping is diminishing all this stuff.

I have to say, some people appear to be over reacting about this. It is someone's livelihood, and they are trying. If you read some of the posts from folk really struggling, you would know that they don't leave catalougues just to get up your nose.

Some of us are very lucky not to have to go door to door. Count your blessings.

If their job didn't exist I'd expect everyone to be a little happier. "you would know that they don't leave catalougues just to get up your nose. " just like chuggers don't mean to irritate you when disrupting your walk but they do. Time we got rid of these kind of jobs, I'd rather pay more in tax for people to be on JSA then have people take jobs like this which help no one including themselves.

vinnie01

If you think Door 2 Door sales are that bad. Look at the TV licensing enforcement officers (CAPITA) they come off a lot worse. They are often referred to as TV licensing goons and they will irritate anyone who don't actually watch TV often accusing them for evading the TV licensing and using threats and fear of large fines. If you want to see how bad these door 2 door are look on youtube.

These people are more aggressive than an average distributor and they will knock on anyone who is unlicensed door and bother them.

There are people who don't actually watch any TV and still harrassed by these corperate criminals.

Stevie_Palimo

I have found that throwing them at them tends to get the message across that you do not want the plastic rubbish they offer, Failing that then take it out when they are there covered with dog muck and set it on fire.

vinnie01

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Stevie Palimo I have found that throwing them at them tends to get the message across that you do not want the plastic rubbish they offer, Failing that then take it out when they are there covered with dog muck and set it on fire."

That probley wont do much because they are multiple of distributors doing the same area if they throw your book away it doesn't stop other distributors from posting there. The Cycle Repeats for each people who are doing the area.

Putting dog mess in a bag and set it on fire wont guarantee a removal. I expect they would just leave it there. Burn something on your property don't expect others to clear it up even it is the catalog. That wont put an end to it either due to multiple people doing the same area. That might guarantee being crossed off by 1 distributor unless the distributor makes a post on the kleeneze site and notifies all Kleeneze Staff in the town don't do that house, however they require evidence for that such as a photo or any footages.

There is not a lot that can be done about this problem. Even TV licensing are exactly the same there was 1 guy on youtube who actually threatened the TV license officer for harrassing him and was made to walk to his car and to drive off. In fact this guy went in to the newspaper titled "TV licensing officer
faces a vile rant from an angry Birmingham Resident"

Look up video on youtube called TV licensing goon gets a shock and you will see what I mean. I bet that guy still gets the officers coming around after that, perhaps a different person as many believe the other officer actually quit his job.

Also Distributors are taught to not pre-judge a house as well as ignore the signs.

geerex

vinnie01 wrote: »

Quote "
Stevie Palimo I have found that throwing them at them tends to get the message across that you do not want the plastic rubbish they offer, Failing that then take it out when they are there covered with dog muck and set it on fire."

That probley wont do much because they are multiple of distributors doing the same area if they throw your book away it doesn't stop other distributors from posting there. The Cycle Repeats for each people who are doing the area.

Putting dog mess in a bag and set it on fire wont guarantee a removal. I expect they would just leave it there. Burn something on your property don't expect others to clear it up even it is the catalog. That wont put an end to it either due to multiple people doing the same area. That might guarantee being crossed off by 1 distributor unless the distributor makes a post on the kleeneze site and notifies all Kleeneze Staff in the town don't do that house, however they require evidence for that such as a photo or any footages.

There is not a lot that can be done about this problem. Even TV licensing are exactly the same there was 1 guy on youtube who actually threatened the TV license officer for harrassing him and was made to walk to his car and to drive off. In fact this guy went in to the newspaper titled "TV licensing officer
faces a vile rant from an angry Birmingham Resident"

Look up video on youtube called TV licensing goon gets a shock and you will see what I mean. I bet that guy still gets the officers coming around after that, perhaps a different person as many believe the other officer actually quit his job.

Also Distributors are taught to not pre-judge a house as well as ignore the signs.

It's a pity that Kleeneze don't sell dictionaries, isn't it?

vinnie01

> It's a pity that Kleeneze don't sell dictionaries, isn't it?<

It is a pity the world is full of other dumb !!! idiots with nothing better to do with their lives.

Pollycat

Well, after vinnie01's incredibly educational post about the life of a Kleeneze agent (#63) I now know that I am a 'plopper'. :j

Vinnie01's title to his post is 'Very interesting Topic'.
I've found it so...er....well...'interesting' that I've gone back to bed. :rotfl:

LilElvis

vinnie01 wrote: »

> It's a pity that Kleeneze don't sell dictionaries, isn't it?<

It is a pity the world is full of other dumb !!! idiots with nothing better to do with their lives.

Better use of his time - like writing a novella about which letterbox to shove a catalogue through? :doh: