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  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    Care to explain this a bit more.

    Seems you may be making an assumption that property values will lower more than the capital repayments and deposit value.

    Of course I understand that taking a mortgage over a longer period reduces the capital repaid. however I don;t agree it is a foregone conclusion that prices will lower "in the years ahead" to over come those payments and the deposits paid to envoke a negative equity situation.

    What do you want explaining?

    You appear to know exactly what I am saying, as you have explained it to me. You just disagree with my thoughts that house prices won't increase enough to cover the pace at which the longer mortgage is being paid off.
  • robmatic
    robmatic Posts: 1,217 Forumite
    What do you want explaining?

    You appear to know exactly what I am saying, as you have explained it to me. You just disagree with my thoughts that house prices won't increase enough to cover the pace at which the longer mortgage is being paid off.

    You do realise that people have equity at the start of the mortgage? At least 10% these days?
  • Graham likes to think everyone is in NE
  • Graham likes to think everyone is in NE

    Then he should join the 70% club. WHen prices drop by 70%, then an awful lot of people will be.
  • ukcarper
    ukcarper Posts: 17,337 Forumite
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    edited 31 August 2012 at 8:23PM
    What do you want explaining?

    You appear to know exactly what I am saying, as you have explained it to me. You just disagree with my thoughts that house prices won't increase enough to cover the pace at which the longer mortgage is being paid off.

    It got me thinking so here are some figures for £100,000 at 5%

    25 years £584 a month, amount paid off after 5 years £11,500, total repaid for full term £175,00

    40 years £482 a month, amount paid off after 5 years £4,500, total repaid for full term £231,00
  • System
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    However, while some of this fall has been driven by lower interest rates and house prices, Gardner said first-timers were also increasing their mortgage terms, with the average up from 25 years to 28.
    Those "lowest ever mortgage payment" figures heralded the other day is simply due to the length of the loan getting longer.


    I think you might be broken.
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  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    edited 31 August 2012 at 9:31PM
    luvpump wrote: »
    How much is annual inflation (rpi) ? 3-4 % some say higher

    Brilliant point.

    The value of my mortgage was just reduced by 3-4% in real terms..... Or maybe even a higher reduction in real terms.

    Even more excellent news.

    :beer:
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    Joeskeppi wrote: »
    I think you might be broken.

    Right, so I can only read the words written in front of me, and never link 2 different statistics up...

    That's right in your fun filled little world, isn't it?
  • System
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    edited 31 August 2012 at 10:15PM
    Right, so I can only read the words written in front of me, and never link 2 different statistics up...

    That's right in your fun filled little world, isn't it?

    The article listed a variety of reasons why mortgages as a percentage of take home pay are low, and your take on that was:
    Those "lowest ever mortgage payment" figures heralded the other day is simply due to the length of the loan getting longer

    You have some kind of problem to make that conclusion from something you read 10 seconds previous which states something entirely different.

    But... but... but...
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  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    Read the sentence Joe...
    However, while some of this fall has been driven by lower interest rates and house prices, Gardner said first-timers were also increasing their mortgage terms, with the average up from 25 years to 28.

    If you simply cannot comprehend what's being said, thats your issue, not mine.
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