Parking in a Disabled Bay

prowla

grant_uk wrote: »

They must be gutted to have lost the custom of someone with such high moral principles that they'll deny access to someone less fortunate just to avoid a couple of minutes walk?

I bet they can't sleep at nights...

*shrug*

I guess in your desire to cast judgement you didn't read what I wrote - there were no other spaces available; on that particular occasion the car park was literally full (ie. no spaces). It was an out of town retail park and there was no option of "a couple of minutes walk", as you put it.

double-*shrug*

grant_uk

prowla wrote: »

I guess in your desire to cast judgement you didn't read what I wrote - there were no other spaces available; on that particular occasion the car park was literally full (ie. no spaces). It was an out of town retail park and there was no option of "a couple of minutes walk", as you put it.

double-*shrug*

Aw... poor you. It must be awful to be forced into trying to nick a parking place reserved for a disabled person just so you can do some shopping.

I really feel for you

System

If reasoned argument fails then there is nothing like attempting a bit of sarcastic ridicule.

grant_uk

!!!!!! wrote: »

If reasoned argument fails then there is nothing like attempting a bit of sarcastic ridicule.

I really don't have any sympathy. Parking places reserved for the disabled are just that. If there aren't any parking places left for the general public, then just deal with it, instead of whining on about how a disabled person's money is obviously better than Prowla's.

Sarcastic ridicule is exactly what's deserved to puncture this ridiculous sense of unearned entitlement that, apparently, is supposed to have me up in arms at the injustice of disabled parking places...

Good grief...

prowla

grant_uk wrote: »

Aw... poor you. It must be awful to be forced into trying to nick a parking place reserved for a disabled person just so you can do some shopping.

I really feel for you

I wasn't nicking anything.
And the question is whether it is better for a shop to turn away actual customers on the basis that somebody disabled may show up.
But anyway, it was several years ago, and I'm done with you.

grant_uk

prowla wrote: »

I wasn't nicking anything.
And the question is whether it is better for a shop to turn away actual customers on the basis that somebody disabled may show up.
But anyway, it was several years ago, and I'm done with you.

Apart from a parking place reserved for someone with a disability (i.e., not you) of course.

Glad to have had the chance to discuss this burning issue with you :j

System

Oh well, the normal battle lines have been drawn. Nothing will change, both sides have their view and both sides are sticking to it.

In the blue corner those who believe that the disabled have an absolute right (regardless of the lack of legislation to that effect)

In the red corner those who are aware that a disabled bay in a private car park is purely paint on the road and could only be enforced with some very dubious use of contract law that has defeated a myriad of PPCs up to now..

bazster

!!!!!! wrote: »

In the blue corner those who believe that the disabled have an absolute right (regardless of the lack of legislation to that effect)

In the red corner those who are aware that a disabled bay in a private car park is purely paint on the road and could only be enforced with some very dubious use of contract law that has defeated a myriad of PPCs up to now..

And there you have it in a nutshell: the thoroughly ignorant argument that if the law can do nothing about it, it must be OK. To hell with courtesy and consideration.

grant_uk

!!!!!! wrote: »

Oh well, the normal battle lines have been drawn. Nothing will change, both sides have their view and both sides are sticking to it.

In the blue corner those who believe that the disabled have an absolute right (regardless of the lack of legislation to that effect)

In the red corner those who are aware that a disabled bay in a private car park is purely paint on the road and could only be enforced with some very dubious use of contract law that has defeated a myriad of PPCs up to now..

Not sure I've ever taken the position that all disabled parking places are legally enforceable, so thanks for that particular misrepresentation.

I do think it's a poor do if someone able-bodied feels that the world owes them a parking space and they're within their rights to deny access to a disabled person as long as they get to do their shopping.

I feel obliged to take the mickey out of that sort of opinion

bazster

grant_uk wrote: »

Not sure I've ever taken the position that all disabled parking places are legally enforceable, so thanks for that particular misrepresentation.

I do think it's a poor do if someone able-bodied feels that the world owes them a parking space and they're within their rights to deny access to a disabled person as long as they get to do their shopping.

I feel obliged to take the mickey out of that sort of opinion

It's also a poor do when someone thinks they can do whatever the hell they like on someone else's land. If the landowner wants to lay down rules about who can park and where they can park then that is his right (and indeed, his obligation to some extent under the Equality Act). The fact that the landowner's legal remedies for breaching his rules are so limited doesn't make it right to breach his rules.