Your opinions on generational attitudes?

mumps

GobbledyGook wrote: »

It would also be more dangerous for an adult to stumble or fall into a small child if the bus brakes sharply than for them to bump another healthy adult.

I hate getting the bus because there's always someone glowering at me for not making my 9 year old stand. However she's got epilepsy that is quite unpredictable and I think she's safer in a seat than a healthy adult. Normally I'll have her on a seat, son on my knee and younger daughter wedged in between us. You'd think I'd eaten someone's kitten with the looks you get. I have offered people my seat before on the condition that they take J on their lap, but they do just look at you like you are mad :rotfl:

The best one is you can hear them carping about them paying for a full price ticket and a child being a 'half'. If only!! The child ticket is 2/3 of an adult ticket so two 2/3's sharing actually cost me more for the kids than one adult!

Don't let it bother you, your daughter's safety is worth a few dirty looks. Sounds like you have enough to cope with, public transport is hard when you have more children than hands (well that was my experience.)

mumps

euronorris wrote: »

Oh yeah, the invisible problems are such a PITA. I remember suffering with terrible back pain, and often had to ask for a seat on the train but it was rarely given. I usually just got told that I looked fine!!! OF COURSE I DID, IT WAS MY BACK WHICH WAS IN AGONY, THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH MY FACE OR LIMBS. *and breathe - rant over* Sorry about that, but some days it was a struggle to get on the train, and I'd be fighting the side effects of the powerful pain meds and muscle relaxants too and being able to sit down meant the difference between being able to stay on the train, or having to get off sharpish so I could puke. The whole thing just drove me nuts!

Meh. Was a horrible time, and did nothing for my faith in humanity!

Few years ago I was on a bus and felt sick. Got up and went to the door, the bus was stuck in traffic and I asked the driver if he could open the door to let me off. He automatically said no. I said that was fine I would just be sick on the bus, he looked at me and opened the door. I just got off in time. Pain killers always make me puke. Back pain is awful because people tend to think you are putting it on. Glad you are better now.

peachyprice

For me, there are two separate issues that don't go hand in hand, which makes it difficult to vote in your poll.

Teenagers/children to sit on the floor obviously. But not necessarily to help with drinks. Thinking of gatherings at my parents who are in their 70's, it would be me, my brother or cousin who would help with drinks, not our children. I would expect them to help themselves if they wanted a refill, but wouln't expect them to serve all the adults.

(sorry if this has already been said, I haven't read the whole thread)

euronorris

mumps wrote: »

Few years ago I was on a bus and felt sick. Got up and went to the door, the bus was stuck in traffic and I asked the driver if he could open the door to let me off. He automatically said no. I said that was fine I would just be sick on the bus, he looked at me and opened the door. I just got off in time. Pain killers always make me puke. Back pain is awful because people tend to think you are putting it on. Glad you are better now.

I remember spending almost an entire journey between Brussels and London hugging the toilet, after a visit to the OH. I had no choice, but my God, train toilets are grim!

You're right! So many people thought I was putting it on, usually when I had to cancel plans at the last minute. These were so called friends, so it's not like I was trying to get out of work or anything.

Thanks - turned out to be posture and core muscles related for me, so some physio, followed by regular exercise resolved the issue. Just wish it hadn't taken 2 years of testing to reach that conclusion.

mumps

euronorris wrote: »

I remember spending almost an entire journey between Brussels and London hugging the toilet, after a visit to the OH. I had no choice, but my God, train toilets are grim!

You're right! So many people thought I was putting it on, usually when I had to cancel plans at the last minute. These were so called friends, so it's not like I was trying to get out of work or anything.

Thanks - turned out to be posture and core muscles related for me, so some physio, followed by regular exercise resolved the issue. Just wish it hadn't taken 2 years of testing to reach that conclusion.

Being sick on a journey is so awful, I remember my parents going on a trip to Scotland and mom developed a migraine. Car stopped for her to be sick and she lay down on grass verge and told dad to go on without her, she just wanted to lie there and die. I don't know what she would have thought if he did it but I do know how she felt.

Good to hear they sorted your back out but I would be torn with feeling so happy it was all sorted and so annoyed it had taken two years to sort out.

euronorris

mumps wrote: »

Good to hear they sorted your back out but I would be torn with feeling so happy it was all sorted and so annoyed it had taken two years to sort out.

That is often how I feel. The NHS took 18 months to get....well,....nowhere really. I was a non urgent case, so I had to wait months and months for each and every appointment. After that point though, I secured a job with private health insurance as a benefit - 6 months later, issue found and appropriate treatment started.

Newly_retired

Sounds like a fairly formal family gathering to me, in which case I would expect that the hosts would be in charge and would prepare the drinks but delegate serving of them to anybody suitable, so not the 4 yr old, not the drunkard - anyone else on hand.

As for the sofas, personally in such circumstances I would be looking for a hard, higher seat than a low sofa that I can't get out of.
But I would be shocked if the teens did not offer their seat to older people or even better, not grab the sofa in the frist place.
In my aged parents' house, my dad always had his comfy seat, my mum chose a hard high seat by the door so she could be in and out to the kitchen, and everyone sorted themselves out after that.

LannieDuck

I would expect everyone (not just the teenagers) to give up chairs to the elderly.

I was quite a shy teen, and in that situation would probably have tried to sit somewhere as unobtrusive as possible. If you sit on the floor, you often find that you're in the way, and the edge of the sofa can be the best place to stay out of the way.

Whether I would have offered to help with drinks depends a bit on how well I knew the hosts and the house. If I was asked, I would certainly have helped, but otherwise I think I would have stayed out of the way. It's often quite awkward trying to 'help' in a house when you don't know where everything is and you don't know which bottles are for drinking now and which for later. I think it's up to the host to say if they need a hand.

But I do think that if you're expecting teenagers to help with drinks, you should also be expecting the 40yos to help... unless the teenagers don't count as guests in their own right? I don't like the idea that older children are servants at gatherings. I think they're guests just as much as their parents are, and should be treated as such.

schofield8883

i think they should sit on the floor in the first place a quick calculation will say there are not enough seats and that it being there house they would offer to sit on the floor out of politness, re the drink i think it would be nice for them to offer to help then it is up to the hosts if they accept the help. If not the teenagers then the 40 years old could? it is only politness but it goes a long way and if there offended then the host can decline the help or offer the seat to someone else