Due a police visit - help

Jamie_Carter

Yorkie1 wrote: »

I can see that this argument is running for pages.

Can anyone help me out by telling me whether the OP has been back to update, so I don't have to read all the to-and-from-posts on here?

If he wants it to run on for pages, then he can do it on his own. I'm not getting involved with childish name calling.

No he hasn't been back yet.

Jamie_Carter

diable wrote: »

This thread has been raped more then Genghis Khans escapades around the world.

Did BritishBoy post an update or was he scared off and children please be nice (like that will ever happen)

I really hope he wasn't scared off by all the scare stories of police brutality, and falisifying evidence. Because from what the OP told us, he has nothing to worry about.

diable

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

I really hope he wasn't scared off by all the scare stories of police brutality, and falisifying evidence. Because from what the OP told us, he has nothing to worry about.

I think he was scared off by the 6 pages of sh1te............

longwalks1

iKennett wrote: »

OP - please let us know how you got on.

Hi all

apologies for stirring up a hornets nest by the look of things

Right, well knock on the door at 3.30pm friday, asked them to come in, was told 'no, put your shoes on your under arrest for harrassment' and was carted off to police station 12 miles away. Was interviewed on tape (well, on CD) and held for an hour while the PC spoke to the charges director (i think) to see if they had enough evidence to go on, which they clearly didnt. apparently i had threatened the bully on more than one occasion and 'roughed him up'. I ws totally humiliated. i was described by the so called victim as 5'11, black spikey hair and muscular build, even though i'm 5'7, dark blonde hair and slight athletic build. Yuo couldnt make it up

anyway, i was released some 4 hours after being taken from my home with 'no further action'

Fuming, embarrassed, and pretty p1ssed off to be honest

Thanks everyone for getting back to me though

Lotus-eater

I'm glad it's all sorted now, I hope you can see the police had to do their job and you would want them to look into a accusation by your child.

I can understand you feeling embarrassed, but the only person that's looking an idiot atm, is your accuser.
It sounds like you kept your cool, which is good, you will have come over well to the police.
Any further accusations and I'm sure it will show in your favour.

Jamie_Carter

Lotus-eater wrote: »

I'm glad it's all sorted now, I hope you can see the police had to do their job and you would want them to look into a accusation by your child.

I can understand you feeling embarrassed, but the only person that's looking an idiot atm, is your accuser.
It sounds like you kept your cool, which is good, you will have come over well to the police.
Any further accusations and I'm sure it will show in your favour.

I can only agree with Lotus-eater. The accusation by the bully was obviously completely false. We can only assume that he made the accusation to try and wriggle out of the racist bullying charge.

adouglasmhor

britishboy wrote: »

Hi all

apologies for stirring up a hornets nest by the look of things

Right, well knock on the door at 3.30pm friday, asked them to come in, was told 'no, put your shoes on your under arrest for harrassment' and was carted off to police station 12 miles away. Was interviewed on tape (well, on CD) and held for an hour while the PC spoke to the charges director (i think) to see if they had enough evidence to go on, which they clearly didnt. apparently i had threatened the bully on more than one occasion and 'roughed him up'. I ws totally humiliated. i was described by the so called victim as 5'11, black spikey hair and muscular build, even though i'm 5'7, dark blonde hair and slight athletic build. Yuo couldnt make it up

anyway, i was released some 4 hours after being taken from my home with 'no further action'

Fuming, embarrassed, and pretty p1ssed off to be honest

Thanks everyone for getting back to me though

Glad there are no further charges, next time you or anyone else is in a situation like this get legal advice. You would have been out in a hour max and would have known beforehand what cards they were thinking of playing.

HeatherintheHills

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

Originally Posted by NewKittenHelp
Or be a witness to an alleged crime and step in to prevent a police officer from abusing his power. That's what happened in my case. I stopped two officers from intimidating a minor by aggressively questioning him without benefit of an adult there. They only backed off and started acting professionally when I got my work ID out and threatened them with a formal complaint.

And if you're wondering, the minor in question was completely innocent and the person who made up the allegations later admitted it.

So they were investigating an alleged crime. And you decided to interfere. Well what if that person had commisted a serious crime, and you had prevented them from investigating it?

I came to this thread with a pretty open mind about the police, my limited personal experiences with them having been mostly, but not always, positive. I take the view that there is good and bad in any organisation and it is unrealistic to expect things to go right 100% of the time. But thanks to you, Jamie Carter I now have serious reservations about police behaviour.

Do you seriously think that your above post, where you completely ignore the fact that 2 officers were attempting to interview a minor
without a responsible adult being present, does anything to give us confidence in the police? Do you honestly believe that such behaviour should have been allowed to continue unchallenged?

To be blunt, your arrogant, aggressive and heavily biased posts have done the police force a lot more damage than any of the posts from those you accuse of being "police haters".

Your continued assertion that anyone questioned or detained by the police must be guilty and has gotten off on a technicality completely undermines the basis of the British justice system, that one is innocent until proven guilty. If your blinkered and unquestioning opinions are an example of current police attitudes, then you have proved beyond doubt that those of us who do not break the law should be very concerned if we ever find ourselves involved with the police in any way at all.

Shame on you for that.

cathryn107

Sorry but I don't think it's sorted. The OP has an arrest record which will be held permanently on the PNC, along with his DNA, prints and photos. If he has a job which requires an enhanced CRB the arrest will be revealed. If he ever comes into contact with the police in future, volunteers, adopts etc he'll have a 'record'.

I found it interesting that the police made an appointment and then arrested. They were slapped down in the courts over this very issue - the arrest of people who were happy to answer questions voluntarily and by appointment - last year. It was ruled unlawful and the guidelines have been changed.

You may wish to look up the case of Mark Richardson v West Midlands Police and take action accordingly.

19lottie82

19lottie82 wrote: »

I sued to think this until an inncident a couple of years ago. I wouldn't trust the police as far as I can throw them, especially the ones that seem like "nice guys". I won't believe a word that comes out fo their mouths from now on.

Again, I stand by my point! What happened to the OP is similar to part of my experience. I was asked to come in to the station (voluntarily) for a friendly chat to iron a few things out. I did and was detained, flung in a cell for 4 hours (despite my protests that I had to collect my mum from her chemo, or at least contact her to tell her that i couldn't make it, but they didn't care), and then released without charge.

Moral of the story. If the police tell you they only want a "chat" be very wary!