The end of Council Tax Benefit!

Dunroamin

annie1975 wrote: »

Its because people are working for peanuts, thats the problem.
The point I am making is how do they expect people to survive on £71 a week and expect them contribute towards rent etc.
Im not saying hes ONLY on £71, aweek, im saying thats what he has to live on,its not a great deal after him working all his life.

Unfortunately, if you rent a bigger property than you actually need (for whatever reason) you can't expect the state to subsidise your choices. If you didn't do this you would have divorced, non working parents both being paid enough money to rent a family size house!

annie1975_2

Dunroamin wrote: »

Unfortunately, if you rent a bigger property than you actually need (for whatever reason) you can't expect the state to subsidise your choices. If you didn't do this you would have divorced, non working parents both being paid enough money to rent a family size house!

Yes I understand that side of things...On the other hand it would cost as much for a flat. At least this way he can have his kids stay over..seeing as people always say fathers should take more responsibility,and quite rightly so.
Looking at the cost side of things too,he can also have his kids while his partner works and that saves the state a tidy penny in childcare fees...I still think £71 is nothing to live on these days.
He would love a job but theres not much out there?

Dunroamin

annie1975 wrote: »

Yes I understand that side of things...On the other hand it would cost as much for a flat. At least this way he can have his kids stay over..seeing as people always say fathers should take more responsibility,and quite rightly so.
Looking at the cost side of things too,he can also have his kids while his partner works and that saves the state a tidy penny in childcare fees...I still think £71 is nothing to live on these days.
He would love a job but theres not much out there?

A one bedroom flat isn't likely to cost as much as a family house and he doesn't need to look after his children in the place that he lives - he could do that in the marital home.

£71 isn't a great deal but it's perfectly adequate for a single person who has rent and CT paid for as well.

annie1975_2

Dunroamin wrote: »

A one bedroom flat isn't likely to cost as much as a family house and he doesn't need to look after his children in the place that he lives - he could do that in the marital home.

£71 isn't a great deal but it's perfectly adequate for a single person who has rent and CT paid for as well.

He cant have his children overnight in the marital home really can he? It is no longer his home,its his ex home.. Which takes me to the original posts of people having to pay council tax.if your only getting £71 a week its hard enough to live without having to contribute to council tax/

MissMoneypenny

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

I have always thought that everyone should pay something, even if only a couple of pounds a week.

It would be much fairer if every adult had to pay their share (with lower amounts for those on welfare and nothing for students). A household with 4 adults should be paying twice as much a household with 2 adults.

seven-day-weekend

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

It would be much fairer if every adult had to pay their share (with lower amounts for those on welfare and nothing for students). A household with 4 adults should be paying twice as much a household with 2 adults.

Agreed.....

MissMoneypenny

annie1975 wrote: »

We dont get housing benefit of any kind, but I think its unfair to expect people to pay something out of £71 a week. On the other hand if you are a family,or someone with children and getting quite a bit then yes you should cough up a bit.

I also agree that those households who only have the welfare payment JSA, should be exempt. But I would limit it to an exemption of just 52 weeks in 5 years.

charlie3090

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

It would be much fairer if every adult had to pay their share (with lower amounts for those on welfare and nothing for students). A household with 4 adults should be paying twice as much a household with 2 adults.

wasnt that called poll tax;)

seven-day-weekend

charlie3090 wrote: »

wasnt that called poll tax;)

It certainly was! Except I don't think there was any allowance for ability to pay in the poll tax. I think every adult should pay something (not necessarily the same and those on means-tested Benefits should pay least, but not zero).

MissMoneypenny

Irn-Bru-Kid wrote: »

But he doesn't receive £71.00 per week. He receives around £86.00 housing benefit and no doubt council tax benefit of say approx £20.00 per week. So his total weekly benefits is around £177.00 - £9204.00 pa.

A person working full time on the minimum wage takes home around £10900 pa after tax.

This is where the problem lies. Why should someone work full time and be less than £2k a year better off than someone who doesn't work?

Then the government needs to cap rents as other countries have done. This will be fairer to the workers and taxpayer (who pay the benefit money).