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Alleged Flouting of the Law

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  • bazster
    bazster Posts: 7,436 Forumite
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    Nor does it mean they have.

    But on the balance of probabilities the chances are that they haven't given that the one on display is three and a half months out of date.

    To argue anything else is to be deliberately obtuse.

    Utter nonsense. Like I said, I often forget to put a new disc in the car for weeks after I receive it. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?
    Je suis Charlie.
  • bazster wrote: »
    Utter nonsense. Like I said, I often forget to put a new disc in the car for weeks after I receive it.
    Well aren't you a forgetful devil?

    And forgetting for three and a half months? Somehow I doubt it.

    Regardless, if they have indeed paid and have a valid tax disc in their home that (like your own forgetful self) they've neglected to display, then no harm done when the DVLA get in touch.
  • buscape
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    oneye14 wrote: »
    A new neighbour several doors down has arrived on our street.
    The usual greetings were exchanged at the time, however over the next few weeks it has become obvious they have 2 cars.
    The older one never goes onto their drive and has clearly seen better days.
    We assumed they would dispose of it but it disappears for a while, then comes back.

    It clearly shows a battered and loose tax disc (once stuck to the windscreen with sellotape) of expiry date April 2012.

    There is no current tax disc showing which I understand in itself is an offence. If it is indeed untaxed then I understand it is not insured either even if they pay for insurance. For the avoidance of doubt it is used and parked 'on the public highway'.

    What do we do (4 options I think) ?
    Leave them to it? If it is indeed untaxed, the police or the DVLA will catch up with them sooner or later.

    I don't see how someone else's road tax is your concern to be honest.
  • bazster wrote: »
    Utter nonsense. Like I said, I often forget to put a new disc in the car for weeks after I receive it. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

    But you're not innocent. You're guilty of the absolute offence of not displaying a valid tax disc.

    I have just paid £250 for my next year of road tax, and for that money I sure as hell will want to display it. Why would you pay and NOT display it.

    If a car has been on a public road with no valid tax disc showing for three and a half months, then sure as eggs is eggs it's not taxed, and it's more than likely it's not insured or MOT'd either.

    It should be reported to the DVLA. If it's got all that's required, then no harm is done. But if it is illegal, then it's another probable death trap off the road.
    "There are not enough superlatives in the English language to describe a 'Princess Coronation' locomotive in full cry. We shall never see their like again". O S Nock
  • andygb
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    But you're not innocent. You're guilty of the absolute offence of not displaying a valid tax disc.

    I have just paid £250 for my next year of road tax, and for that money I sure as hell will want to display it. Why would you pay and NOT display it.

    If a car has been on a public road with no valid tax disc showing for three and a half months, then sure as eggs is eggs it's not taxed, and it's more than likely it's not insured or MOT'd either.

    It should be reported to the DVLA. If it's got all that's required, then no harm is done. But if it is illegal, then it's another probable death trap off the road.


    I agree with this, the fact that it has not got a current tax disc, may be due to the fact that the MOT has expired.
    Given some of the answers on here though, the owner may have been abducted by aliens on their way back from the post office, and their tax disc subjected to all manner of tests, before being destroyed by a powerful laser;)
  • bazster
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    But you're not innocent. You're guilty of the absolute offence of not displaying a valid tax disc.

    So what? I don't care about that, the DVLA don't care so long as I've paid, and I don't suppose The Plod care either so long as their computer says I've paid. And if you care about whether or not I've remembered to display my tax disc all I can say is, you need to get out a bit more.
    I have just paid £250 for my next year of road tax, and for that money I sure as hell will want to display it. Why would you pay and NOT display it.

    Possibly because you have better things to do with your time.
    If a car has been on a public road with no valid tax disc showing for three and a half months, then sure as eggs is eggs it's not taxed, and it's more than likely it's not insured or MOT'd either.

    Wow, so you're psychic now?
    It should be reported to the DVLA. If it's got all that's required, then no harm is done. But if it is illegal, then it's another probable death trap off the road.

    Oh, so you admit that it might be taxed after all! a few moments ago you were spluttering and foaming at the mouth because for certain it wasn't taxed!
    Je suis Charlie.
  • Maybe the original OP should input the reg number into the AskMid database and find out if the vehicle is insured. And then onto the DVLA database and find out if it is taxed.

    http://www.askmid.com/

    https://www.taxdisc.direct.gov.uk/EvlPortalApp/app/enquiry?execution=e1s1

    I'd be interested to hear the outcome on both.
    "There are not enough superlatives in the English language to describe a 'Princess Coronation' locomotive in full cry. We shall never see their like again". O S Nock
  • Sgt_Pepper_2
    Sgt_Pepper_2 Posts: 3,644 Forumite
    Maybe the original OP should input the reg number into the AskMid database and find out if the vehicle is insured. And then onto the DVLA database and find out if it is taxed.

    http://www.askmid.com/

    https://www.taxdisc.direct.gov.uk/EvlPortalApp/app/enquiry?execution=e1s1

    I'd be interested to hear the outcome on both.


    Why are you that bored?
  • Mrs_Arcanum
    Mrs_Arcanum Posts: 23,976 Forumite
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    edited 14 August 2012 at 1:33PM
    Chances are they have SORNed the car but should not be keeping it on the road. The local council often have a department which deals with apparently abandoned vehicles (no current tax). So will do all the chasing up & contacting the owners without anyone else being involved. Should you alert them to this "abandoned vehicle" ;)
    Truth always poses doubts & questions. Only lies are 100% believable, because they don't need to justify reality. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon, The Labyrinth of the Spirits
  • Sgt_Pepper wrote: »
    Why are you that bored?

    Not as much as you must be. :D
    "There are not enough superlatives in the English language to describe a 'Princess Coronation' locomotive in full cry. We shall never see their like again". O S Nock
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