5:2 diet

adouglasmhor

~Chameleon~ wrote: »

Do you really need a processed carb with every meal? Plus a snack?

How about eggs for breakfast, fish/chicken salad for lunch and replace the pasta with rice or couscous for dinner. If you want something chocolatey then a couple of squares of dark 70+% cocoa chocolate would be fine

I am glad you are not seeing my intake. I am a firm practiser of IIFYM and to me carbs are carbs, so long as I am hitting my targets for protein, fats, fibre and carbs I will eat some of them any time. Also to me white rice and cous cous are proccessed stripped carbs and brown rice pasta is unstripped, so proccessed is not always > unproccessed.

~Chameleon~

adouglasmhor wrote: »

I am glad you are not seeing my intake. I am a firm practiser of IIFYM and to me carbs are carbs, so long as I am hitting my targets for protein, fats, fibre and carbs I will eat some of them any time. Also to me white rice and cous cous are proccessed stripped carbs and brown rice pasta is unstripped, so proccessed is not always > unproccessed.

But we can't process the bio-available nutrients in brown rice so that's a bit of a misnomer. White basmati rice is actually better in terms of nutrient content.

What is IIFYM?

Shower-of-roses

yes id like to know what iifym is

sometimes think if we stopped all this good food bad food nonsense we'd end all the guilt trips which lead to the all or nothing thinking.

Anyway, fast day.

1 satsuma
broccoli bake with a lowish fat cheese sauce, i.e. no butter, skimmed milk. delish, carrots and a few peas.
1 jaffa cake!

typing with baby in arms, struglling now i must go and give said baby some attention. just wanted to keep up-to-date or I give up too easily.

tesuhoha

On this way of eating you don't have to think about what you are eating on non fast days and if you want carbs then have them. There should be no restrictions, no rules. The fast days are the source of the health benefits of this diet and are the only rules.

System

tesuhoha wrote: »

On this way of eating you don't have to think about what you are eating on non fast days and if you want carbs then have them. There should be no restrictions, no rules. The fast days are the source of the health benefits of this diet and are the only rules.

^^^^^^^ Exactly this.

Don't make it complicated because it isn't. Stick to your recommended calories on fast days and forget about it the rest of the time. Easy.

Arrietty

Phew,

too many restrictions was why I quit the hideous Dukan.

Off to local food festival today

darrensurrey

AbbieCadabra wrote: »

the author of the book that a few of us have read, was asked about combining 16:8 & 5:2 on his facebook page, this is what he said " There isn't any evidence to show success, or failure, of the method you've thought up. In theory at least, it should be a safe and effective method. After a 600 cal day, traditionally you only slightly overeat on the next. Of course, if you then cram that 110% intake into 8 hours, it may produce an overspill of insulin. To be sure, there's only one certainty: give it a go, and report back! It's advisable to still eat meals within an 8 hour window, as opposed to snacks. Doing snacks will almost certainly undo the good work of the day before."

i think perhaps i'm getting a bit over-zealous with all this at the moment as i really want to drop a stone before i go away at the end of this month

i'll carry on doing what i'm doing now for the next 2 weeks & hope for the best. absolutely no ill-effects at the moment, only positives. i'll plan on doing just 16:8 (perhaps 14:10) whilst we're away for 2 weeks (alcohol will be consumed so i'm not expecting miracles!), & review where i am when back home.

still haven't weighed myself, that's tomorrow, but i've put a dress on today & it feels like it's hanging off me!

The issue for me is that he's not certain. And it's making things tougher. The funny thing about losing weight is that the harder you push, the harder the body objects so the slower you can end up losing in the long run.

Shower-of-roses

I'd never heard of the 8 hour diet. I'm going to give that a go along side the 2 500 fasts and see where I end up. That makes sense to me because I like decent meals, it'll forbid the late night binges and I like a bit of discipline Thanks for all the info everyone above!

Feel a bit shaky today after yesterdays fast (and I admit I cheated with a late night jaffa cake but still around 450 cals according to myfitnesspal)

Eat day;

darrensurrey

Actually, I always liken dieting to gambling. The more desperate you get, the less likely you are to achieve the results you want. Bringing emotions into the equation will tear you apart, too, eg being frustrated, angry because you gained a little (weight doesn't decrease in a straight line, profit doesn't go up in a straight line).

The only "difference" is there are more losers for both gambling and weight loss. :rotfl:

darrensurrey

Shower-of-roses wrote: »

I'd never heard of the 8 hour diet. I'm going to give that a go along side the 2 500 fasts and see where I end up. That makes sense to me because I like decent meals, it'll forbid the late night binges and I like a bit of discipline Thanks for all the info everyone above!

Feel a bit shaky today after yesterdays fast (and I admit I cheated with a late night jaffa cake but still around 450 cals according to myfitnesspal)

Eat day;

I recommend keeping it simple but I'm repeating myself now.

As for cheating, you're only cheating yourself, as they say. HOWEVER, if you ate under 500, then you think it's cheating but it isn't. I'd say factor in the Jaffa cake as part of the 500 as part of your plan. What it sounds like was that you're trying to not eat whereas you're supposed to eat 500 to keep you from going crazy. Since you tried to avoid food, you felt you had to cheat. The outcome is you ate the same but probably felt guilty when you didn't need to. Maybe writing this helps you to understand your thought processes. Certainly, I'm not judging you or criticising! (You have to pay extra for such services.)

Once more, I'm no expert.

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