tax code change

chrisbur

morganedge wrote: »

Hi,
I've never had 2 jobs.
I was working for a company though an agency for a few months, and then the company asked me if I could join them on a permanent basis, so I left the agency and worked directly for the same company.

I cant find my p60 from the agency, but I think I have my latest p60 from the actual employer.
What info from it do you need?

Also, on one of them 4 letters from January, I see that under the section where it says ''how we worked it out'' there is a (-£918) deduction for 'other earnings, (or pension)''
I had/have neither.
I only just noticed this!!

Would it be best to just write them a letter bascially explaining what i've written in this thread?

This was most proberbly the cause of the problem, the notice that you were not with the agency anymore was forgotton or lost so you appeared to have two jobs at once.

If you want to check the tax you have been paying I would suggest that you get all you records together and list for each year ( from memory you can go back four years) your total taxable income and total tax paid along with final tax code on P60, and someone will check them for you.

morganedge

jem16 wrote: »

So did you get a P45 from the agency and if so did you pass it to the employer?

From memory, I got a p45 from them (but not straight away) which eventually was given to my employer.



You wouldn't get a P60 from them if you were not still employed with them on 5th April 2102. You would get a P45 instead.



Tax code, gross taxable pay, tax paid.

p60 from company
'Final tax code' - 747LM1
pay - 3389.99
tax deducted - 428.60

However that's not going to cover the whole tax year so we'd need the agnecy info.



The -£918 must have come from somewhere. Perhaps the agency employment as you didn't hand over a P45?

What is the employer's name on each of the 4 letters?

2 letters have the name of the agency on it.
The other 2 have the name of the actual company on it.



Might be an idea to get it clarified here first.

answers in purple

jem16

morganedge wrote: »

p60 from company
'Final tax code' - 747LM1
pay - 3389.99
tax deducted - 428.60

The M1 on your tax code is the emergency tax which means that nothing that went on before was taken into account.

However these figures are meaningless without the info from the P45 to see how much you earned at the agency and any other work throughout the tax year 2011/12.

2 letters have the name of the agency on it.
The other 2 have the name of the actual company on it.

So it looks as if HMRC thought/still think that you are working at both and have split your allowances accordingly.

morganedge

jem16 wrote: »

The M1 on your tax code is the emergency tax which means that nothing that went on before was taken into account.

However these figures are meaningless without the info from the P45 to see how much you earned at the agency and any other work throughout the tax year 2011/12.



So it looks as if HMRC thought/still think that you are working at both and have split your allowances accordingly.

thanks.
I still can't find the P45, but if that's the only info you need, I earnt about 3k or so at the agency. Wasn't doing any other work Have never had 2 jobs at the same time. Also hadn't done any work before that for quite a few months.

Does that help at all, or do you need more specifics?

Also, I don't remember ever getting a payslip with any of them 4 codes I mentioned on it??

jem16

morganedge wrote: »

thanks.
I still can't find the P45, but if that's the only info you need, I earnt about 3k or so at the agency. Wasn't doing any other work Have never had 2 jobs at the same time. Also hadn't done any work before that for quite a few months.

So £3k from agency and £3389.99 from company. Total £6389.99. Did you have JSA? If not then you shouldn't have paid any tax at all last year and are due a refund of at least the £428.60 you paid via the company and possibly more through the agency.

Does that help at all, or do you need more specifics?

It gives you a rough idea but cannot be specific without the P45 info. However I'd be giving HMRC a ring about a possible rebate from last year.

Also, I don't remember ever getting a payslip with any of them 4 codes I mentioned on it??

If you had left the agency those codes wouldn't have been used. Strange that the company ones weren't though.

Anyway are HMRC now clear that your company job is your one and only job and are giving you a tax code of 810L with no M1 suffix after it?

morganedge

jem16 wrote: »

So £3k from agency and £3389.99 from company. Total £6389.99. Did you have JSA? If not then you shouldn't have paid any tax at all last year and are due a refund of at least the £428.60 you paid via the company and possibly more through the agency.

I don't remember the exact dates, but roughly I was on JSA for a few months. Didn't like signing on and so signed off for 3 more months until I eventually got the job through the agency in about November? Then worked the agency for 3 months or so and then went with the company directly in about February until now.
So maybe I am due £428.60 back??


It gives you a rough idea but cannot be specific without the P45 info. However I'd be giving HMRC a ring about a possible rebate from last year.

Is it not better to write them a letter with photo copies of the P60 and along with, more or less, the info I have supplied in this thread?



If you had left the agency those codes wouldn't have been used. Strange that the company ones weren't though.

Anyway are HMRC now clear that your company job is your one and only job and are giving you a tax code of 810L with no M1 suffix after it?

I think they are aware. When I asked them this morning about my recent tax code change, they asked me to confirm my emlployer and said that my code would be changed back to 810L

So you think I need to contact them again? (either written or phone call)
I assume these things don't get fixed by themselves and they'd just keep any money that I may be owed?

Thanks for all your help

jem16

morganedge wrote: »

I don't remember the exact dates, but roughly I was on JSA for a few months. Didn't like signing on and so signed off for 3 more months until I eventually got the job through the agency in about November? Then worked the agency for 3 months or so and then went with the company directly in about February until now.
So maybe I am due £428.60 back??

JSA is taxable but it would probably have been paid gross so really can't tell without all the info from the P45, the P60 and JSA.

Is it not better to write them a letter with photo copies of the P60 and along with, more or less, the info I have supplied in this thread?

You can write but you will also need to enclose the P45 from the agency, the P45 from JSA and the P60 - all originals. You can photocopy then for your own records but you must send originals.

As HMRC will probably have all this information by now, it seems easier to phone.

So you think I need to contact them again? (either written or phone call)
I assume these things don't get fixed by themselves and they'd just keep any money that I may be owed?

Thanks for all your help

They probably will get around to it eventually but it might be quicker to contact them yourself.

morganedge

I have now found my p45 from the agency, although, As if things weren't already complicated enough(for me at least), i've just seen that it has the wrong national insurance number on it!

However, the other info that I guess you'd need from the newly found p45 is:
total pay: 3586.06
total tax: 305.20
tax code on leaving: 747L

jem16

morganedge wrote: »

I have now found my p45 from the agency, although, As if things weren't already complicated enough(for me at least), i've just seen that it has the wrong national insurance number on it!

So you should just have part 1A and nothing else? Parts 2 and 3 should have been given to your new employer.

However, the other info that I guess you'd need from the newly found p45 is:
total pay: 3586.06
total tax: 305.20
tax code on leaving: 747L

Still at the moment under the personal allowance. How much JSA did you get?

morganedge

jem16 wrote: »

so you should just have part 1a and nothing else? Parts 2 and 3 should have been given to your new employer.

yes. It says part 1a on it.



still at the moment under the personal allowance. How much jsa did you get?

this is the only thing i am unable to anwser. I can't find any contact from them yet (p45 or anything)

if i recieved enough to take me over the personal allowance, would that mean that i'm not owed anything, and once this tax code gets changed next month, we're all square and the apparent mix up with me getting various codes in the post didn't actually effect me?

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