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Changing a conservatory roof from UPVC to tiles

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  • Furts
    Furts Posts: 4,474 Forumite
    I and others have posted before on the cost of building an extension. An extension can be more cost comparable with a conservatory than many people think. Without knowing specifics my immediate reaction is your conservatory sounds cheap and your extension expensive. Even if this is not the case you are not comparing like for like. In terms of all round 365 day use and heating, insulation, roof space storage, re-sale value etc an extension would win.

    In the end it comes down to what can be done for the budget.
  • SailorSam
    SailorSam Posts: 22,754 Forumite
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    Reading this thread would certainly make you think twice before getting a conservatory.
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  • cyclonebri1
    cyclonebri1 Posts: 12,827 Forumite
    edited 18 August 2013 at 9:53AM
    billypob wrote: »
    I was wondering what everyone's thoughts were on a conservatory with:

    Option A
    • False ceiling (office type)
    • Led Lights
    • Insulation above ceiling

    Option B
    • plasterboard ceiling
    • LED Lights
    • Insulation above ceiling

    My dilemma is
    Conservatory £4500
    Extension £14000

    It would be hard to recoup the extra cost of an extension when I come to sell due to the area although we are desperate for extra space.
    I am aware of the temperature issues with a conservatory and would be interested in everyone's thoughts

    Thanks

    Facts of life, you have to put heating in to effect a change in temp, copy that for cooling.

    False ceiling/insulating above ceiling. all dependent on the latter.

    And ad infinitum.

    The point is a conservatory will not retain heat compared to a conventional "home", no thermal mass.

    Of course you can put energy in, but you get a very poor return for that

    PS,

    Our conservatory isn't, it's technically an orangery as it is divorced from the house, but it serves as a greenhouse, sports/snooker room, and somewhere to house the gkids pets over winter;););)
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    Will the grammar and spelling police respect I do make grammatical errors, and have carp spelling, no need to remind me.;)

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  • My husband's cousin has just had this done and is thrilled with the results. Can now use the room all year round. She used Prefix Systems - The Garden Room Roof, we are going to get a quote to do ours soon too.
  • cyclonebri1
    cyclonebri1 Posts: 12,827 Forumite
    Oldish thread and haven't re-read it, but adding the amount of weight that a tiled roof with a suspended ceiling is going to push things weight wise, especially under snow loads.

    I think it would need restructuring totally having thought about it, the section supplied with a conservatory that the roof sits on would not support the load of a heavy roof, the weight would be transferred to the glass:eek::eek:
    I like the thanks button, but ,please, an I agree button.

    Will the grammar and spelling police respect I do make grammatical errors, and have carp spelling, no need to remind me.;)

    Always expect the unexpected:eek:and then you won't be dissapointed
  • http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20120919132719/http://www.communities.gov.uk/documents/planningandbuilding/pdf/1728453.pdf

    Scroll down and read sections c24 and c25.

    Old thread i know but i have been looking at building a conservatory and tiling the roof. This would once not have been possible, but due to a change in legislation, many companies are now tiling conservatory roofs.


    My BCO says it is a massive grey area and different councils are interpreting the rules in different ways. He also said that they are planning to have a council meeting to come up with a clarification because many companies have taken their own meaning from this and are ploughing ahead with lightweight tiling solutions to already existing conservatories.

    There is also nothing concrete to stop some people building extensions with tiled roofs and classing them as conservatories/porches under current guidelines, as long as they meet certain glazing and thermal regs and are seperated from the main dwelling by exterior grade doors and windows. Theoretically, no planning or building regs are needed and these buildings can now extend to 6 or 8 metres from the house under the temporary planning conditions currently in place.
  • cyclonebri1
    cyclonebri1 Posts: 12,827 Forumite
    http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20120919132719/http://www.communities.gov.uk/documents/planningandbuilding/pdf/1728453.pdf

    Scroll down and read sections c24 and c25.

    Old thread i know but i have been looking at building a conservatory and tiling the roof. This would once not have been possible, but due to a change in legislation, many companies are now tiling conservatory roofs.


    My BCO says it is a massive grey area and different councils are interpreting the rules in different ways. He also said that they are planning to have a council meeting to come up with a clarification because many companies have taken their own meaning from this and are ploughing ahead with lightweight tiling solutions to already existing conservatories.

    There is also nothing concrete to stop some people building extensions with tiled roofs and classing them as conservatories/porches under current guidelines, as long as they meet certain glazing and thermal regs and are seperated from the main dwelling by exterior grade doors and windows. Theoretically, no planning or building regs are needed and these buildings can now extend to 6 or 8 metres from the house under the temporary planning conditions currently in place.

    The black bit is the clincher, don't try to put a standard, (heavy weight) roof on a flimsy conservatory frame.
    I like the thanks button, but ,please, an I agree button.

    Will the grammar and spelling police respect I do make grammatical errors, and have carp spelling, no need to remind me.;)

    Always expect the unexpected:eek:and then you won't be dissapointed
  • fluffymuffy
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    edited 8 September 2013 at 4:06PM

    My BCO says it is a massive grey area and different councils are interpreting the rules in different ways.

    No grey area at all. These structures render the building an extension and therefore not exempt from the Building Regulations.

    My Building Control Dept says they take their interpretations from their governing body - the LABC - http://www.labc.uk.com/ - who have already issued their guidance note on this (see my post above).

    The link you posted is dated 2010. My link is dated 2012 and is a guidance note telling Building Inspectors how to interpret the Building Regulations.

    Lots of people will prefer your answer. Especially those who sell these roof coverings.
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