Changing a conservatory roof from UPVC to tiles

mike_the_bike_2

Ok thanks for that...however what is the definition of "Roof Glazing" in the eyes of Building Control? Having watched the video for this product it would appear to originate from Ireland (Pleased to see all the workers had their hard hats and Hi Viz jackets on !) and am wondering if building regs there are different?

I also wonder whether the tiles are lightweight plastic that they feel somehow means it gets around uk building control and planning definition of an extension?

Johnandabby

The definition is 'translucent' and covers both PVC and glass. As the tiles in the link aren't translucent I can't see how they can claim to be compliant in this country. Different standards in Ireland and can't be taken as compliant in England and Wales - unfortunately lots of non compliant products available on the market from outside of the UK

Furts

mike_the_bike wrote: »

Ok thanks for that...however what is the definition of "Roof Glazing" in the eyes of Building Control? Having watched the video for this product it would appear to originate from Ireland (Pleased to see all the workers had their hard hats and Hi Viz jackets on !) and am wondering if building regs there are different?

I also wonder whether the tiles are lightweight plastic that they feel somehow means it gets around uk building control and planning definition of an extension?

My suggestion is you forget any spam and establish what these tiles are made of?, what is the fire risk?, how are they fixed?, what are fixed to? and what testing have they undergone in the UK?

You need to protect your interests, and these would all be valid questions that could be posed to you by the Building Control Officer. If you cannot provide satisfactory answers, then you are following a dodgy route.

I would welcome myself, and fellow mse users, getting your feedback. These are new and relatively unknown products.

silky180

Interestingly I have had a quote for one of these light weight roofs, based on measurement only and they are coming out at about £5000 or £6500 fitted for a 3m x 4m roof.... so out of my price range.

It is an interesting concept and I think ultimately a conversation with the building regs officer would be required. My conservatory is only 3 years old and I know my footings are 1.4m deep for various reasons.

What I find interesting about the product is the light weight roof element as it can be added to new structure that the COY put in place and fitted to existing glazing.

Furts

silky180 wrote: »

Interestingly I have had a quote for one of these light weight roofs, based on measurement only and they are coming out at about £5000 or £6500 fitted for a 3m x 4m roof.... so out of my price range.

It is an interesting concept and I think ultimately a conversation with the building regs officer would be required. My conservatory is only 3 years old and I know my footings are 1.4m deep for various reasons.

What I find interesting about the product is the light weight roof element as it can be added to new structure that the COY put in place and fitted to existing glazing.

Hi silky180
Somebody is having a laugh at that price. I have recently had three pitched roof extensions put on my home. They were expensive because of my design, sizes, crane access etc.

Roof timbers were expensive and came in at about £1800, labour was £2000, tiles were about £800 and roofer £1600. The areas? Approx 6mx5m, 4.5mx1.5m, 6mx3.5m. (Scaffolding was extra - that was approx £1500 but allowed for numerous other jobs)

Yet for a similar price you are offered a dubious product on a small conservatory...

Newbie2saving

I've had a quote this week for just under £10k for this tiled system, think it is the Guardian one. I am surprised it is so costly, I understand it is an entire new roof, but still 10k! I thought it would be similar price to having glass, I have been quoted £5k for that and glass looks much better in my opinion, but doesn't remove the issue of it being too cold for a number of months/annum (or does it? What are people's experiences?).

Have also seen the systems where batons are fixed to the existing polycarb roof, but to me that sounds dodgy and inherent with issues screwing into roof?

Anybody actually gone ahead with roof replacement? I won't be doing at this price!

Thanks.

Furts

Newbie2saving wrote: »

I've had a quote this week for just under £10k for this tiled system, think it is the Guardian one. I am surprised it is so costly, I understand it is an entire new roof, but still 10k! I thought it would be similar price to having glass, I have been quoted £5k for that and glass looks much better in my opinion, but doesn't remove the issue of it being too cold for a number of months/annum (or does it? What are people's experiences?).

Have also seen the systems where batons are fixed to the existing polycarb roof, but to me that sounds dodgy and inherent with issues screwing into roof?

Anybody actually gone ahead with roof replacement? I won't be doing at this price!

Thanks.

I may have made the point before so apologies if I am repeating myself.

I would never consider any of these replacement roofs without checking if there was a BBA certificate issued for them and scrutinizing the terms of testing, location, wind lift, exposure etc.

Put simply; no BBA equals no roof!

There is a real risk of consumers parting with considerable sums of money to buy modern day snake oil.

Then, in a few years time they put their home for sale and a survey lowers the selling price because of their expenditure on an "improved" roof.

Hence a double whammy!

Newbie2saving

No apologies necessary, I don't think you can state these warnings enough and if you have experience in an area which othes don't (ie me!), then it is appreciated. Thanks for the heads up, will look into it.

billypob

I was wondering what everyone's thoughts were on a conservatory with:

Option A

• False ceiling (office type)
• Led Lights
• Insulation above ceiling

Option B

• plasterboard ceiling
• LED Lights
• Insulation above ceiling

My dilemma is
Conservatory £4500
Extension £14000

It would be hard to recoup the extra cost of an extension when I come to sell due to the area although we are desperate for extra space.
I am aware of the temperature issues with a conservatory and would be interested in everyone's thoughts

Thanks

Johnandabby

billypob wrote: »

I was wondering what everyone's thoughts were on a conservatory with:


Option A

• False ceiling (office type)
• Led Lights
• Insulation above ceiling

Option B

• plasterboard ceiling
• LED Lights
• Insulation above ceiling

Conservatory minus a glazed roof is an extension under Building Regulations, so a suspended ceiling with insulation above isn't going to work.

If you build a conservatory with a glazed roof, and then install an insulated suspended ceiling below, you're likely to have major problems with condensation and water dropping down from the ceiling.