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Landlord frequently turning up unannounced.....
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Your letter will be the first contact with the Landlord on this matter. I urge you to avoid using any kind of threat whatsoever at this stage. This is your first, best and possibly only chance to get the Landlord on side. Don't blow it with the wrong letter! Just ask for the LL to bring the involvement of this relative to a swift end.I am definitely going to keep the diary/record of visits that was suggested, and get those blinds, and get my husband to draft a letter to the actual LL explaining that if this continues we will have to take this to a more legal level!
If that does not work, well you could send the letter you are planning now, but I would be urging that the second letter is a solicitor's letter. The letter you write now should be one which leaves your solicitor free to write 'Mr and Mrs clark24 have been extremely reasonable .....'
Remember that you are not dealing with creepy/relative/agent at this stage - you are dealing with a Landlord who is very likely to be completely unaware of the behaviour of this person. So don't make the mistake of sending the Landlord a letter in the tone you would send if creepy/relative/agent were the Landlord.Hi, we’ve had to remove your signature. If you’re not sure why please read the forum rules or email the forum team if you’re still unsure - MSE ForumTeam0 -
yes we have, on each occasion my husband has asked for prior warning and explained that it may not be convenient for us or that either of us may be at work, but this man doesn't care. If we are out when he turns up he just takes the opportunity to have a good look about, last time he did this we came home to him staring in the kitchen window and my daughter had barricaded herself in her room terrified! She was in tears. She was too scared to even go to the loo or make a noise incase he knew she was alone in the house. He knows we don't want him doing it and why, but he thinks we can't stop him, which is why I needed advice on here, just to find out what could be done.
And you have all been wonderful :beer:
Bear in mind that this forum has a distinctly anti-landlord tinge to it. So, you should take the advice with a pinch of salt. 'Not convenient' is not the same as 'It is distressing for us and you upset my daughter, so do not come round here at all without prior agreement except in an emergency'. I suggest explaining to him face to face, then following it up in a letter to the LL summarising what was said. Try not to get angry with him, just be firm and reasonable. Bear in mind that quarterly inspections are quite normal, so you (arguably I know) cannot ban him altogether.No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?0 -
Bear in mind that this forum has a distinctly anti-landlord tinge to it. So, you should take the advice with a pinch of salt. 'Not convenient' is not the same as 'It is distressing for us and you upset my daughter, so do not come round here at all without prior agreement except in an emergency'.
I agree. There is a need to here to be blunt - not rude, just very clear. "It might not be convenient" is your code for "It is distressing etc".
Stop using code.0 -
Ummm, you don't think that is just a touch hysterical? Has the OP explained clearly that she just does not want this guy dropping by?
No I don't. Consider it this way: if you found a stranger looking in the windows of your house you'd call the police. If you found someone wondering around your garden for no reason, you'd ask them to leav e and if they didn't/came back called the police. Why should it be different for a relative of the LL?
There is no excuse for this man to even be on the OPs property (and it is their property for the term of the tenancy). Let alone looking into windows or walking around the back garden.
I personally would be very concerned about this behavior. It's not normal, and it's not acceptable for the OP and her family to be intruded upon and upset by this man's behavior.
Hopefully a visit from the old bill will get it into his head that he can't do this.Save £200 a month : [STRIKE]Oct[/STRIKE] Nov Dec Jan Feb Mar Apr0 -
thegirlintheattic wrote: »No I don't. Consider it this way: if you found a stranger looking in the windows of your house you'd call the police. If you found someone wondering around your garden for no reason, you'd ask them to leav e and if they didn't/came back called the police. Why should it be different for a relative of the LL?
There is no excuse for this man to even be on the OPs property (and it is their property for the term of the tenancy). Let alone looking into windows or walking around the back garden.
I personally would be very concerned about this behavior. It's not normal, and it's not acceptable for the OP and her family to be intruded upon and upset by this man's behavior.
Hopefully a visit from the old bill will get it into his head that he can't do this.
Well, he's not a stranger, is he? The OP has not told him clearly (enough) to go away. Trespass is not a criminal offence. So, there's a very good chance the police will do nothing. "Civil matter, madam, unless there's a breach of the peace." Of course, if there is a BOP, it's pot luck whom the police will arrest.No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?0 -
The anti-LL tinge comes from the fact that this website is a consumers website, not a business website.Bear in mind that this forum has a distinctly anti-landlord tinge to it. So, you should take the advice with a pinch of salt. 'Not convenient' is not the same as 'It is distressing for us and you upset my daughter, so do not come round here at all without prior agreement except in an emergency'. I suggest explaining to him face to face, then following it up in a letter to the LL summarising what was said. Try not to get angry with him, just be firm and reasonable. Bear in mind that quarterly inspections are quite normal, so you (arguably I know) cannot ban him altogether.0 -
I agree - don't go in too heavy with the LL on the first letter - the most probable outcome is the LL will be mortified that great uncle Norman has taken a casual request to drive by the house every few months to this obsessesive extreme!!
The man has probably no idea of tenants rights or how renting works. If he calls round again before you have written to the landlord be blunt - say these unannounced visits are completely unreasonable, go against all your rights as a tenant and have to stop. Offer no further explanation. Practice an authoritive tone!!0 -
If we are out when he turns up he just takes the opportunity to have a good look about, last time he did this we came home to him staring in the kitchen window and my daughter had barricaded herself in her room terrified! She was in tears. She was too scared to even go to the loo or make a noise incase he knew she was alone in the house. He knows we don't want him doing it and why, but he thinks we can't stop him, which is why I needed advice on here, just to find out what could be done.
And you have all been wonderful :beer:[/QUOTE]
This situation is awful! Your poor daughter. I know what I would do if this had happened to my daughter. In any event, not doing the washing up has NOTHING to do with your tenancy - can't imagine that its in your lease. How ridiculous. I would definitely take the advice given here although I seem to remember that you can't change locks on a rented property (I could be wrong though). Send the letter as suggested (you don't need to employ your solicitor at this stage - waste of money really).
I totally agree with a phone call to the police should you or your daughter be frightened again.
What a shame for you and your family. I do hope things improve but you will have to be proactive.
Sweep the path/pick up a stray leaf/cut the grass every day/wash up on the hour indeed! They shouldn't have rented out the property if they are so scared of what tenants may do. The last tenants I had wrecked the property so badly that the only way out was for me to sell the house (at a loss) to them. However as thing turned out, they didn't get the bargain they thought they did. Another story but proof of the saying 'what goes around comes around'.0 -
angrypirate wrote: »The anti-LL tinge comes from the fact that this website is a consumers website, not a business website.
There's an amazing amount of resentment about paying rent. People are happy to pay finance on say a new car. They don't resent the payments to the car finance company, but renting a property seems to be so emotional. Consequently, LLs can do no good round here.No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?0 -
There's an amazing amount of resentment about paying rent. People are happy to pay finance on say a new car. They don't resent the payments to the car finance company, but renting a property seems to be so emotional. Consequently, LLs can do no good round here.
If you find me a thread where the finance company comes round and says they are taking the car for a spin because it is theirs, then maybe we WOULD see the same 'resentment'0
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