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Landlord frequently turning up unannounced.....

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  • cwcw
    cwcw Posts: 928 Forumite
    GDB2222 wrote: »
    Mortgage lenders insist on their borrowers taking out insurance at the borrower's expense.

    The fact is that the rental property belongs to the landlord, and he has a right of entry for repairs. To suggest that that is unreasonable is just downright silly.

    What kind of repairs need doing where you can't ask the tenant for permission first? You must give notice for any access unless an emergency, and if an emergency the chance of you being around at the right time and the tenants being awol, and emergency services stood round waiting for a key, are just so slim as to be ridiculous. If it did happen and your key wouldn't work, break the lock, it's the tenant's deposit at stake. That risk is a price I find worth paying for a stranger not having a key to my home. And there's always landlords insurance.
  • martyn05
    martyn05 Posts: 170 Forumite
    As said before, I would phone the police about this person. His behaviour is not natural and he may already be on their watch list. Tell the police you believe he is stalking you and that you are scared to venture out or let your children play in the garden.

    Have a camera handy, when he stares through the window, take his photo! If you can video him in your garden from an upstairs window then even better.

    Do not be scared of this person, tell them to leave!!
    "Nil Sine Labore" - Nothing Without Labour
  • GDB2222
    GDB2222 Posts: 26,482 Forumite
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    cwcw wrote: »
    What kind of repairs need doing where you can't ask the tenant for permission first? You must give notice for any access unless an emergency, and if an emergency the chance of you being around at the right time and the tenants being awol, and emergency services stood round waiting for a key, are just so slim as to be ridiculous. If it did happen and your key wouldn't work, break the lock, it's the tenant's deposit at stake. That risk is a price I find worth paying for a stranger not having a key to my home. And there's always landlords insurance.

    The latest leak I had, the tenant downstairs phoned the managing agents, and they phoned me. I heard about it within a few minutes, and I'd have been on the spot within 20 minutes if the tenants hadn't borrowed my spare set of keys. As it was, it took 24 hours. So, that was 24 hours of misery for the tenants downstairs, but you don't care about them.

    As I said, provided there is trust between the tenants and the landlord, it obviously makes sense for the landlord to be able to get access in an emergency. To keep arguing that it doesn't is just plain silly. OTOH, if there is no trust, then of course you are right.

    None of my current tenants has been with me for less than 3 years, and the longest is 15 years, so I'm probably doing something right. I have had some b****** awful tenants, too, but I try my hardest to hang onto the good ones.
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • Mojisola
    Mojisola Posts: 35,571 Forumite
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    GDB2222 wrote: »
    As I said, provided there is trust between the tenants and the landlord, it obviously makes sense for the landlord to be able to get access in an emergency. To keep arguing that it doesn't is just plain silly. OTOH, if there is no trust, then of course you are right.

    I would want to change the locks because there's no way of knowing which previous tenants have held on to keys or who they may have passed them onto.

    It also makes sense for someone to be able to access the property in an emergency.

    We own our own house but want someone to be able to provide access if there is an emergency and we can't be reached so friends/family/neighbours have had a key - it's varied according to circumstances.
  • cwcw
    cwcw Posts: 928 Forumite
    GDB2222 wrote: »
    The latest leak I had, the tenant downstairs phoned the managing agents, and they phoned me. I heard about it within a few minutes, and I'd have been on the spot within 20 minutes if the tenants hadn't borrowed my spare set of keys. As it was, it took 24 hours. So, that was 24 hours of misery for the tenants downstairs, but you don't care about them.


    It would be no different to the upstairs flat being owner occupied though, it's a risk you take living in a flat. The ground landlord doesn't hold keys for any flats but can still bust in if absolutely necessary.
  • lovinituk
    lovinituk Posts: 5,711 Forumite
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    Yorkie1 wrote: »
    Send it first class post with a certificate of posting from the post office.
    That will only prove that it has been sent, not received. Post does go missing so proof of postage is useless unless you want to make a claim with Royal Mail. I know recorded delivery does not guarantee a signature but it is no worse than your suggestion - in fact it is better than your idea as there is more chance of a signature being obtained than not.
  • BitterAndTwisted
    BitterAndTwisted Posts: 22,492 Forumite
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    Which is why the usual advice is to send TWO copies by first-class post from two different post-offices on the same day retaining proof-of-posting.

    One copy may very well get lost in transit but the likelihood of both going stray is remote. Courts will often accept that one copy had reached its destination in such circumstances.
  • lovinituk
    lovinituk Posts: 5,711 Forumite
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    Werdnal wrote: »
    NO, NO, NO - never send anything to a LL or tenant by recorded delivery. How many times does this have to be explained here!

    RD requires a signature - LL/T not at home, it sits in the sorting office awaiting their collection. LL/T cannot be arsed to get it, or does not see the little card the postie drops through the door, the letter is returned to sender after 14 days!!!!! Recorded delivery is not proof its arrived - if it is not signed for it never will!

    Send all correspondence by normal first class post and keep a free proof of delivery from the PO. 1st class is deemed delivered 2 working days after posting.
    So how does proof of postage help? It doesn't.
  • lovinituk
    lovinituk Posts: 5,711 Forumite
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    Which is why the usual advice is to send TWO copies by first-class post from two different post-offices on the same day retaining proof-of-posting.

    One copy may very well get lost in transit but the likelihood of both going stray is remote. Courts will often accept that one copy had reached its destination in such circumstances.
    Now thats a very sensible suggestion.

    I appreciate recorded delivery is not reliable enough to guarantee a signature and that the recipient might not be there but proof of postage, as suggested by others, is equally a waste of time.
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