Putting The Boot In To The BPA on Their Turf

Kite2010

How many of those successful cases from Excel were from no-shows where the defendant didn't even know they got court papers as Excel used an old address (or even an admin error put the wrong address in the field)?

HO87

It is a shame that Mr Ibbotson would not have been a party to the proceedings involving Simon Renshaw-Smith's explanation to Judge McIlwaine for having issued proceedings without cause. That, I would have paid good money to have been present at. Certainly "Miss Coates" was sent away with her tail firmly between her legs and I doubt we will see her or SR-S on the court circuit for a while.

patman99

WageSlave1 wrote: »

It's probably fair comment to say that BPA won half of the issued cases that proceeded as far as a hearing BUT we don't know for sure whether all those cases were for parking tickets. Out of the 845 cases probably some of them were for things other than parking. Don't know if any of those non-parking cases might have been in the final 49 cases.

Also there is the DeVere factor. They account for quite a large percentage of the issued cases. It is believed that their cases seem to receive an unusually sympathetic hearing in their local county court. Possibly this is just because as repeat players and regular court attendees they've managed to build up a certain level of trust. Others have suggested more sinister explanations to do with the guy behind Devere, Lee Kirsch, being a magistrate or former magistrate - but that just seems like speculation.

For those in need of a damned good chuckle the full transcript of VCS v Ibbotson is over on Pepipoo. It's also on CAG but you have to be a member there in order to download it.

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=70652&view=findpost&p=716983

Of course, should these pumpkin-heads try Court,the defendant has the right to have the case moved to their local Court, thus taking the case away from the BPA's favourite JPs.

HO87

patman99 wrote: »

Of course, should these pumpkin-heads try Court,the defendant has the right to have the case moved to their local Court, thus taking the case away from the BPA's favourite JPs.

Indeed the defendant has the right to a hearing in his local court. Unfortunately, experience suggests that cases are carefully selected so that they are effectively all local and with the closure of Poole County Court there is only one court to be used. Devere have folded on cases where good defences are filed.

"BPA's favourite JP's?" - Mr Kirsh may or may not be a former JP and may, now, be connected or not with Devere (who is the mysterious Steve Williams?) but it is DDJ's, usually, that preside over small claims hearings.

andy13

I received a reply from my MP today regarding the false information the BPA gave to government about the 36000- 90000 court cases. She was not aware of the discrepancy and would be writing to the transport secretary for some answers on the subject.

notts_phil

andy13 wrote: »

I received a reply from my MP today regarding the false information the BPA gave to government about the 36000- 90000 court cases. She was not aware of the discrepancy and would be writing to the transport secretary for some answers on the subject.

Let us know how she gets on

peter_the_piper

I'm not sure how many MP's would be very helpful unless there is some political/private gain.

Oopsadaisy

peter_the_piper wrote: »

I'm not sure how many MP's would be very helpful unless there is some political/private gain.

Welcome to the world of politics!!!!!!!!

Politics comes from two greek words...poly [many] and tics [blood sucking parasites]

muckybutt

Oopsadaisy wrote: »

Welcome to the world of CORRUPTION IN THE RANKS
Politics comes from two greek words...poly [many] and tics [blood sucking parasites]

Altered it for you

LincolnshireYokel

My MP has replied, he has written to Mike Penning, Parliamentary Undersecretary for State at the DoT and kicked his cage.