Preparedness for when

2tonsils

This sounds scary......
http://www.keeptalkinggreece.com/2012/11/21/greek-police-says-goodbye-to-non-eu-foreigners-in-13-languages/

pineapple

2tonsils are you in Greece then? :eek:
I think all of us - especially in Europe and US are living on a knife edge. But a lot of people don't realise how fragile their existence is. They can't imagine anything other than the status quo continuing. It was the image of a child car seat in a wrecked car in the Japanese tsunami that got me thinking. We are used to tales of disaster in third world countries - but hey this shows it can happen to anyone. Yes perhaps even someone with a smart TV and 'phone!
Just heard this on Sky News - the UK economy is healing but still facing 'major challenges'. 'Healing'? - yeah right...
Personally I think the future is in 'community'. So bartering, peer to peer lending, LETS systems, getting together to purchase whatever - especially food and energy. Bitcoins maybe? http://bitcoin.org/
Whatever - we are scarily reliant on 'the system' for our day to day existence. I don't think this can be changed any time soon - but maybe we can at least tip the balance somewhat.

the_cake

Very, very wet here - had to go the long way round today to get out (little hamlet at the bottom of a hill) as the lane was flooded, worse than usual, too. I am getting anxious about the snow forecast: we have three horses (two of them retired) and one cat, so need to get in plenty of bedding and feed. Loo roll supplies (human!!!) also dangerously low....
I do so agree, pineapple, few people realise how fragile our "sophisticated" society is: thanks to 2tonsils I am a bit better informed than I was about the situation in Greece, and am amazed at how little is shown on our TV. When there was a lot going on a few weeks ago they showed a clip on the news which was over in seconds, then spent about five minutes talking about football! Bread and circuses spring to mind.....
Had a LBM yesterday: much cheaper to boil a kettle on our gas, or ideally on top of the woodburner, so I am now after a nice cosy looking one, then I can get rid of the electric one, which was a cheapy, and drips all the time, drives me mad. So two birds killed, with one kettle. Ebay, here I come.
Hugs to all, stay dry, warm, safe and prepped! xx

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Absolutely spot on PINEAPPLE, we are not immune to events and disasters, and it is very daunting to see how many people have no idea of self help, relying on the 'They will sort it out, won't they?' mindset. Trouble with that is that 'they' are also going to be caught up in whatever happens along with the rest of us. You are also right in saying that the way to a future is through community participation and belonging, I think we all live such separate lives though it will be hard won if it happens. No man, as they say, is an island however and we all need the support of like minded folks, sharing information, skills, ideas and support which is what this thread is all about, and long may it continue in the friendship that has evolved as I think it may be a very useful tool for us all in the long run. Cheers Lyn x.

2tonsils

Yes Pineapple I live in Corfu, I have lived here nineteen years.

The talk of a non electric kettle reminds me..I bought a whistler camping kettle last winter and I have not used it, so I am off to search under the sink for it. I vaguely remember putting it there last year. Our electric kettle (only a year old) has started to open the lid before it's finished boiling. For the last three weeks I have been boiling it with a tin of coffee on the lid to stop it opening lol. I was reluctant to buy another electric one, but now I don't have to.


Ooohh...if it's going to turn all Mad Max on us I want to pay the part of Tina Turner. I do a great rendition of What you get is what you see.

oldtractor

For when the SHTF I think its important to have tinned goods toilet rolls and some savings in the bank. Also spare medication and anything any pets may need.

oldtractor

2tonsils wrote: »

This sounds scary......
http://www.keeptalkinggreece.com/2012/11/21/greek-police-says-goodbye-to-non-eu-foreigners-in-13-languages/

Is this for real?

craigywv

i know i wrote out my shtf list the other night and looking back on it i think it makes mr look like a complete header,if i can explain.... i have loads of grub as price of food going up so much and oh gets laid of work in 3 weeks. wind up torches, candles etc i didnt deliberatley set out to buy always had loads as i light them every night, pellet guns etc was given to me by my mum as she was throwing them out as they were my big bros and gathering dust in her house, the bikes well we ride them!! have had my st johns ambulance as my gran was sick and wanted to be prepared , cooking chimneas and cauldrons well they just garden stuff but can now be used to cook on if shtf and my buckets of peat , i live beside bogmeadows and its all over the place and i love the smell of it burning, so really its stuff i have either lying about me or was given to me , i have not went out and bought anything only food for my shtf scenario but my post the other night made me look like a doomsday prepper which i am not. Yes this is another random ramble from me . Hello new people on the thread get used to me i am the neurotic one in the group who has moments of anxciety and madness and the nice peeps on this thread have a wonderful way of calming me down. off now as am all jittery now xxxx

Hardup_Hester

I know where my stop taps are, but don't have a cat in hell's chance of turning them off, I can't even get the top of a milk bottle.

Did you know?
A colleague's mother turned on her kettle this morning & blew her electrics, she checked her elec board, but couldn't get the trip to reset. She was advised to phone Age Concern, they sent someone over who checked out all the electrics, made it safe & reset the trip, his visit was free & he wouldn't even accept a tip. I'm not sure how old you have to be, to be eligible, but I thought this information might be useful to someone.
Hester

2tonsils

oldtractor wrote: »

Is this for real?

Yes, I am afraid it is. I find it quite scary that the police are the ones distributing the leaflets to non EU immigrants. I also don't understand why they would publish it in French, Spanish and English. I can't think of any non EU immigrants who use those languages.....The Greek government are bringing in some crazy laws (the latest were either voted in at midnight, or bypassed parliament altogether so no vote on them). Government by stealth....

If you look through my previous posts on here you will see that I often share information before it becomes news ( or in some cases because you would never hear of it unless you live in Greece ).

It seems this is part of an EU funded scheme to get non EU foreigners to return to their home countries with assistance from the fund. It is on the EU site.

I read your comment about having some money in the bank:

I am afraid the bank would be the last place I would keep my money in Greece...the banks are far from safe...and government guarantees on bank deposits are only good if the government is not bankrupt...... we have used our euros to build up stocks of food and fuel and water and have paid our mortgage and taxes in advance. If Greece goes out of the euro we will still technically owe our mortgage in euros not the new currency.