Preparedness for when

Cappella

I'm afraid the country is too full of people like that...

Luckily the country is also full of people who aren't like this.

We are all human beings, and as far as I'm concerned in that respect, (possibly in that respect alone, though I'd like to think not) we are all equal. We are all capable of great kindness, and we are all capable of great unkindness. Being a Tory doesn't automatically make you an evil person, or a lower life form. And being a Socialist doesn't automatically make you a good one. We can all point the finger. We can all start to pigeon hole and compartmentalise others, and in doing so make them somehow less than human.
This is a VERY dangerous way of thinking, seeing others as less than human always leads to horrendous atrocities, damage, pain and hurt. Is this what we are prepping for? Is this what we are voting for? To prove that, through our actions we are we are in some way 'superior' to the bulk of humanity? For whatever reason?

Whatever happens in the future, both here and elsewhere in the world, I will grimly try to remember this fact. Everyone bleeds, everyone feels pain, everyone matters. Because if I feel respect and compassion for others why should I expect them to feel the same for me?

An ounce of kindness is worth a ton of rhetoric. I'll take the kindness any day of the week.

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Thank you CAPELLA, that post is the tiny bit of cold water needed to cool heated thinking. Emotions are obviously running very high at present and taking a small step back to see reality without heat might be a very sound move.

There are lots of people in this world that I don't particularly like but they're entitled to be themselves, they don't have to be anything I want them to be do they? It doesn't make them wrong, it doesn't make me right it doesn't make them less worthy than me or me more worthy than them, It's just life and there is a place in it for each of us no matter who!

VJsmum

Cappella wrote: »

Luckily the country is also full of people who aren't like this.

You're right.

unfortunately i can't seem to say right for wrong.

I'll leave you to it...

Edit, ignore me. Too much emotion, too much wine


Though you are right, Capella

I will try to be kind....

armyknife

milasavesmoney wrote: »

Very interesting article and it brings up lots of questions for me. To not rule out wanting the new military army to rival NATO because they are "competent" is one step toward saying now that we have a force as good as NATO we don't need them anymore...which could/would take America out of the region. Obama has been drawing down our military and it will be pre WWII levels soon. If Hillary gets into office, which is more that likely, she will continue to gut our military. Very interesting all the way around.

It's probably the most lavishly equipped military in history or perhaps since the Roman empire; US 'defence' spending is equal to that of the next 6,7,8,9 or even 10 other largest spending countries.

The pre-war (sept39 that is) US army had about 200,000 men and around 100 obsolete tanks, much of the army air corps had out-dated aircraft and the US Navy whilst large, certainly wasn't then the largest and didn't resemble the worldwide dominant force that it is today.

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Report in today's paper says that, contrary to what David Cameron claimed during the Referendum Campaign, UK Border Control will be staying in Calais after all.

:think:

GreyQueen

Bedsit_Bob wrote: »

Report in today's paper says that, contrary to what David Cameron claimed during the Referendum Campaign, UK Border Control will be staying in Calais after all.

:think:

We're going to be having a Mushroom Summer; kept in the dark and fed on the proverbial. To be followed by a Mushroom Autumn, Mushroom Winter and Mushroom Spring.

The really important stuff will be in the small print and tucked away on alternative news websites and blogs. Which is where people should be going after information like piggies or pooches after truffles.

Mainstream newspapers will tell you what has already happened or what their proprietor wants you to think. If enough of their readership seems to be of one persuasion, they will have to take that stance or risk losing them, at least on the banner headlines. The undercurrents, which are to suit the proprietor's political and commercial aims, will be unchanged, of course.

The foolishness quotient of public discourse will be even higher than it normally is, which is why I don't bother owning a TV and why the radio has been silent for about a year now; I like to read, to think and to listen to music.

Keep blinking away the dazzle, and keep truffling down in the ground for the really interesting information, the stuff which will enable us to make preptastic decisions and come through Interesting Times in the best possible shape.

Nargleblast

Be especially aware of hidden news on Wednesday - the media will be full of the Chilcott report, so it will be easy to miss small news items.

lobbyludd

GreyQueen wrote: »

Afternoon, all.

Glad several of you have enjoyed the Archdruid. Mr Greer is a superb essayist and his commentators are erudite and well-reasoned, and one of our regulars even comments there, sometimes, under the same user-name as she uses on MSE.

That Brexit essay is a humdinger. Shame that it can't be forcibly read to the pig-ignorant mudslingers of the liberal press. The kind of things which get said about the working class in the UK would consititute hate crime if said about any other group, and this has been the case long before Brexit. They have become so detatched from the reality of most people's lives that they might as well be a separate species.

Lots of people have had their lives blighted by the events of the last 30 years and have been thrown under the bus by the elite classes without a second thought. But the elites, and their elite journalist co-travellers, suffer from a particular form of dyscalculia; they actually think they are the majority.:rotfl:

It vastly amuses me to see people who imagine themselves to be clever to fail to understand that they are a small minority within the population. A minority which insists on making itself deeply unpopular with the majority. There is an endgame to this, and it is massive civil unrest and the overthrow of the present elite class. And maybe even personal injury and death, as well as injury to reputation and wallet.

Keep your ears peeled for the rumble of tumbrels across the cobbles and cast on some knitting ...........

thanks for the link, it was an enjoyable read, he does make a coherent argument and It better explains the desire to vote Brexit than anything else I've read - including I'm afraid anything on this forum - probably due to the length of the explanation! (and I completely agree with the hopelessness of the remain campaign, fear based, exaggerated rubbish, but what do you expect from the tories?).

However, it doesn't change my view that exiting the EU will not deliver the things that those who voted for it want. instead it will deliver a further right conservative government who won't give a t*ss about the ordinary person and the most vulnerable.

The downward pressure on wages, the lack of affordable housing, high rents, poor working conditions, poor living conditions are all caused by greed.

Obviously I'm not an economist, but the "law" of supply and demand isn't an undeniable thermodynamic equation it's just a set of human behaviours driven by greed. An employer can pay a reasonable wage no matter how many people apply for that job. That they don't isn't a logical sequelae to immigration, why aren't we blaming the employers? Immigration is just a convenient excuse from the political classes (and not a new one) that doesn't tackle the fact that the vast amount of wealth is concentrated at the "top" of the pyramid - it is blaming the "other", and invariably those less well off than us - because they've travelled to do crap jobs at rock bottom wages. We have to stop looking across for people to blame (or across and slightly down) and start looking UP.

There is enough money right here, and it's not the immigrants who've got it - what a successful sleight of hand that has been.

Whilst the proles are indeed the majority, we don't stick together and vote for our own interests do we? new labour was born to win over the middle class mores because the Tories kept getting voted in, however horrific they were to the ordinary man-on-the-street. Why? - given the overwhelming numbers that in their own interests shouldn't have supported them??

shiny baubles and sleights of hand.

anyway thanks for the link.

maryb

Reverting back to the Archdruid post,I think a lot of our musings are, in fact, about the loss of shared values, such as deferred gratification and aspirations towards a better life for yourselves and your children as a result of hard work. Those values have seemed hollow to many people in recent years. Doesn't mean they should be discarded.

I think rediscovering those values will be the salvation of a lot of people who are tempted to think what's the point. Because the corollary of cutting off a supply of cheap labour is that there won't be any excuse for people to simply opt out.

The day of the referendum result we were staying in a hotel near DD2's uni in an area which voted overwhelmingly for Brexit and which has been in the firing line for the loss of traditional industries. It was notable that nearly all the staff were local, not Eastern European.

But four out of six staff in the restaurant did not turn up for work on Saturday. Two phoned in sick, two just didn't show. Obviously I don't know the circumstances but that seems a high rate of absenteeism. I felt for the two who had to cope shorthanded

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This thread is supposed to be about PREPPING NOT POLITICS!