Preparedness for when

Goldiegirl

Karmacat wrote: »

As an amateur historian, what all of this actually reminds me of is the English Civil War, in the 17th century - not in terms of violence (I believe it was worse than World War I in that respect per head of population) but in terms of how it split pre-existing groupings and classes. Thats exactly what this issue has done.

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I was thinking along similar lines earlier. Never in my lifetime has the population seemed so split, and the split has never been so close to the surface. In fact, the split has completely boiled over, and very suddenly too

Now there seems to have been such a seismic shift in the landscape, I think people have suprised themselves at how strongly they feel about this issue

dandy-candy

I don't class myself as tied to any political party, I vote for who I like best at the current time, however I want to share this link to an article with the oldies here because it is quite amusing and might resonate with them!

http://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/jane-kelly-the-resit-generation-strikes-back-with-a-brexit-tantrum/

maryb

some of those accusations are being hurled chez nous.

cbrown372

http://www.electoral-reform.org.uk/votes-at-16

mardatha

Do we think these tensions and anger have been simmering away underneath for a while? Maybe something to do with the lack of a break from austerity and the near-impossibility of getting a decent steady job for life with a wage you can live on? I wonder how many politicians see and recognise that - but they won't ever say it out loud.
I think prepping is coming back into it's own!

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I think prepping is a necessity more than ever today MAR, we can do one of two things stand and moan about how unfair it is and that old people shouldn't have had the right to vote 'cos they're going to die soon any way or get on with living life and looking to how you can future proof as much of life as is possible. Prepping makes more sense now than it ever has!!!

GreyQueen

Karmacat wrote: »

And thats *our* mandate from ourselves I think prepping might become really essential for a little while, because of strikes disrupting supplies? Maybe.

As an amateur historian, what all of this actually reminds me of is the English Civil War, in the 17th century - not in terms of violence (I believe it was worse than World War I in that respect per head of population) but in terms of how it split pre-existing groupings and classes. Thats exactly what this issue has done.

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Spooky, I was thinking of how one of the things in the English Civil War was how it divided families including fathers and sons.

Overall, I have considerable respect for Ms Sturgeon, which will disappear like frost in sunshine if her actions somehow stop the UK brexiting the EU. We will have to see.

Picture this:

Meanwhile, in another part of the forest, various large construction companies are beginning to prepare tenders for rebuilding Hadrian's Wall. It won't be right on top of the scheduled ancient monument, of course, we're not barbarians, but close enough. There are some suggestions that murderholes, sally-ports, battlements and arrowslits are not needed but may be added on an ad hoc basis for historical versimilitude. Or for something easier for me to spell, even.;)

Down at De La Rue, artists are being commissioned for banknotes and the Royal Mint is planning various commemorative sets of coins and medals to celebrate the great transformation. Yours for only £199.99 inc P& P and available via advertisments in the magazines of all the quality newspapers. Ms S will be planning a Window Tax to pay for the Great Scottish Recoinage of 2020 (there is a historical precedent for this, of course).

Scotland and Norway will be entering bilateral talks about forming a new alliance and going onto the Pickled Herring Standard. Boatloads of elite Scottish commandos are preparing to secure crucial oil rigs in the North Sea and hold them against all comers.

The nuclear subs at Faslane will be nationalised, just as soon as someone can find the key to the gate padlock.

Ongoing experimentation to deal with the Highland Midge will be halted on the grounds that anything which makes colonisation of the comeliest parts of Scotlandshire easier must be resisted at all costs.

I could go on but you probably wish I'd stop right here............

Full disclosure; I've lived in Scotland in the past and some of my best friends are Scottish. Plus rattling my family tree shakes out a few Scots surnames (mainly lowland cattle thieves and brawlers, it must be said, but them's the breaks).

Cappella

I've just written myself another three weeks menu plans to cover July, just using British produce - really enjoying this challenge, thank you Mardatha it's a little like living in the 1950s again in a lot of ways and is surprisingly economical as so much is growing on the allotments at this time of year. I've included pasta this time, as you CAN make pasta with British wheat, but excluded rice. It's also making me look for opportunities to use a lot of the pickles and preserves I've made, which is an unexpected bonus.

I am sorting out my preps too and have finally audited my pantries and freezers which I've never really got properly to grips with since last Septembers little health scare. Have been to Lidls to top up tinned and some dried goods, and toilet rolls and am planning to pop into Morrisons tomorrow for many more tea bags and coffee. It may not be needed, who really knows? But I feel a lot better knowing, whatever happens that I'm as prepared, and future proofed, as I can possibly be

Onwards and upwards, we have the knowledge and skills to get through the fallout, it's just a question of using them to move forwards instead of standing still.

milasavesmoney

One thing I have done of and on for many years has been to buy silver coins. It's been part of my prepping for years. I don't have enough money to buy gold...but I can buy silver a little at a time. I view it as a monetary hedge>>>just in case sort of prepping.

nuatha

GreyQueen wrote: »

Spooky, I was thinking of how one of the things in the English Civil War was how it divided families including fathers and sons.

I grew up in an ex-mining village, surrounded by coal mining communities. The divisions and rancour I'm seeing are worse than those in the mining strike - even at the point were some were returning to work and strike breaking.

Overall, I have considerable respect for Ms Sturgeon, which will disappear like frost in sunshine if her actions somehow stop the UK brexiting the EU. We will have to see.

I suspect this is a tactic to get approval for a second referendum (as promised and well publicised up front) though from todays media reports Boris seems to be the biggest stumbling block to Brexit.

Picture this:

Meanwhile, in another part of the forest, various large construction companies are beginning to prepare tenders for rebuilding Hadrian's Wall. It won't be right on top of the scheduled ancient monument, of course, we're not barbarians, but close enough. There are some suggestions that murderholes, sally-ports, battlements and arrowslits are not needed but may be added on an ad hoc basis for historical versimilitude. Or for something easier for me to spell, even.;)

I'd suggest using the Tyne as far as Alston then either drawing a line due West to Maryport (I'm not sure it would be quite straight) or up to Carlisle and the Solway Forth, it would leave most of the Wall undisturbed (though having grown up with it on my doorstep and seeing all other historical periods ignored because their not Roman, I wouldn't be too disturbed to see it go).

Down at De La Rue, artists are being commissioned for banknotes and the Royal Mint is planning various commemorative sets of coins and medals to celebrate the great transformation. Yours for only £199.99 inc P& P and available via advertisments in the magazines of all the quality newspapers. Ms S will be planning a Window Tax to pay for the Great Scottish Recoinage of 2020 (there is a historical precedent for this, of course).

Scotland and Norway will be entering bilateral talks about forming a new alliance and going onto the Pickled Herring Standard. Boatloads of elite Scottish commandos are preparing to secure crucial oil rigs in the North Sea and hold them against all comers.

The nuclear subs at Faslane will be nationalised, just as soon as someone can find the key to the gate padlock.

However the Americans will still control the firing systems - hopefully that's Clinton rather than Trump.
Though the subs themselves were going to get moved to France if the first IndyRef had gone the other way. Thinking of which, I wonder what would have happened with our timeshare aircraft carriers (the French withdrew from the project a couple of years ago)

Ongoing experimentation to deal with the Highland Midge will be halted on the grounds that anything which makes colonisation of the comeliest parts of Scotlandshire easier must be resisted at all costs.

I could go on but you probably wish I'd stop right here............

Full disclosure; I've lived in Scotland in the past and some of my best friends are Scottish. Plus rattling my family tree shakes out a few Scots surnames (mainly lowland cattle thieves and brawlers, it must be said, but them's the breaks).

We may well share some ancestry, my family were Reivers (and later buccaneers, though in the interests of fairness I have to admit to an MP in a colateral line, the shame of it)