Preparedness for when

THIRZAH

I like Macknades too, Jackie. we always try to go there when we visit DD1 in Kent-we usually treat ourselves to lunch there too.DD lives just to the east of Canterbury so I can get a bus from her village up to Whitstable. I'm trying to persuade DH to move down to Kent when he finally retires.

Today I'm going through my stores and making a list of what we need. I try to keep a spare of all essentials-tea, coffee, rice etc and a good supply of tins.

GreyQueen

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

But not surprised GQ?

Nope.

Never be surprised if clever people act stupidly; commonsense being a contraband substance in many places.

The consquences of trying to stop something are often the exact opposite of what the would-be stopper intends. I can see this being the case here.

The politcal caste is in a crisis. This crisis matters deeply to them, not so deeply to the rest of us. What will matter hugely is if half the electorate have their clearly-expressed wishes over-ridden. To even contemplate it shows a level of foolishness which is almost breath-taking and it clearly demonsrates exactly what they think of us.

[Deleted User]

I'm not sure that they DO think of us, we're an annoyance that is there to be contained, I suspect what they do think of is their position in the political hierarchy and their accumulated points in the old boys club, both British and Continental. Politics doesn't appear to be about the populace any longer does it?

lobbyludd

I've not heard the news, only read it this morning,
- and haven't come across whatever moves you're talking about from EU to overturn brexit - could you point me to it?

GreyQueen

lobbyludd wrote: »

I've not heard the news, only read it this morning,
- and haven't come across whatever moves you're talking about from EU to overturn brexit - could you point me to it?

This for starters - gotta be brief, am eating breakfast atm and then getting ready for work:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/26/fightback-against-brexit-on-cards-remain-eu-referendum-heseltine

It's front and centre on the DM website, too.

mrs-moneypenny

Morning all
Dh heard on the news yesterday the Angela merkel is suggesting uk be given more time to consider their decision.things I've picked up on are - Nicola sturgeon is trying to delay England and Wales leaving until she can sort out Scotland's deal. Dave won't leave till October and the new (whoever that is) pm can't put article 50 into place till then. The 2nd referendum call is gathering pace but full of sucpicious and downright fraudulent signatures (ironically it was set up by a brexiter even before the free drum took place)
According to the daily mail Dave applied for a mortgage 8 days before the referendum took place so he suspected he was going somewhere.
So basically we are being ganged up upon to be forced to stay, the whole thing stinks!!!!

I'd also heard that heseltine is pushing for voting till we stay as the lords don't agree with the people's majority, and their votes and opinions are obviously worth more than the people's. Silly uneducated me I thought it was one vote per person and they were all worth the same.

[Deleted User]

It's going to be a scratchy growly sort of a week I think, people are in turmoil and the future is uncertain, rumour is rife and people are going to say things they'll wish unsaid by Friday. Heads down or wear your colanders and keep a firm hold on that rolling pin!!! We're in a better position than most folks because we at least have been considering what might happen and making provision as we are able for some of it to be disruptive, prepping will let us NOT be part of the problem if there IS unrest and knowledge and skills should let us help friends, family and neighbours sort out their problems. We'll make it ALL good in the end even if it is a bit uncomfortable until that happens, collective chins up pals, we'll be OK!

GreyQueen

Gosh, mrs-moneypenny, whatever made you think that?!

We are looking at the beginning of the end of the EU. The death-thrashing of this behemoth will be protracted and messy. Bystanders are likely to be injured if they get too close.

Politicians who favour over-riding the referendum seem to have a curious amnesia; they themselves are subject to periodic elections. You'd think they'd be worried about their personal electorate marking their cards now and saying Right, matey, you're toast, come the general election.

boddy

Come out of lurkdom to say how much I love this thread. Ive learned so much. Found it interesting to read everyone's thoughts regarding recent events. You have all helped me prep which I'm glad of at the minute. I fell last week and fractured my knee cap. Because I'm a prepper it meant I had enough stocks in to help me in the short term. Portable phone chargers to keep by me so I'm not having to get up and down. Family and friends are great though as well. My next purchase is to be a solar powered phone charger. Off back to lurkdom.

maryb

I'm not sure anyone sensible is actually talking about a rerun as such, but we will probably have to have a say on what is eventually on the table whether that takes place via a general election or more directly.

I think the majority of politicians and business would like to maintain access to the single market and it will come with conditions. So we will probably end up continuing to make contributions and tbh that doesn't bother me although the more viscerally opposed will hate it.

It's how they tackle the question of free movement that matters. One suggestion I have seen is to go back to pre Maastricht rules which allowed the right to work but did not have the concept of the rights of an EU citizen. I don't know if this would solve many of the problems of pressure on social housing if EU in comers had to rent in the private market. Not sure it would solve the problems of new slums springing up.

I blame the EU elites for letting it come to this - I will admit that if they had given Cameron meaningful concessions I would have voted remain. But I also blame our own elite and London Lovvies for neglecting real concerns. It should never have taken three years for the police to break up a shanty town in a car park on the Old Kent Road. Switzerland accepts free movement but if you don't have a job or lose it you are deported.