Preparedness for when

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moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

as I see it, there isn't much time left to "save our country" and 10 years time I doubt we'd even vote to try.

Personally, I don't think there will be an EU, in ten years time.

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MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

and that the future that was bright on Wednesday was removed against your wills on Thursday

It wasn't removed against our wills.

It was removed by the will of the people.

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OK but I can understand that people who voted to remain are in some considerable distress because the decision to leave is the result of the referendum. Yes it is the decision of a democratic nation but I can feel the hurt from the 48% of folks who voted to stay and understand why they hurt.

moneyistooshorttomention

Bedsit_Bob wrote: »

Personally, I don't think there will be an EU, in ten years time.

Quite possibly so.

The fact we have voted to leave could well be the start of a process that was already "lined up waiting to happen" but hadnt yet been "set in stone" iyswim.

Re Turkey - I was sitting there anticipating they would join (ie whatever "fancy fiddling" was necessary to make that happen would have happened) and definite sense of panic of knowing that its now basically an Islamic country (just as a Turk I knew well years back had predicted it would be - and I had believed them). Add that its a poor country - and I anticipated rather a large influx into our country if they did.

Right now - and I am wondering what will happen to those British people that emigrated to other countries in recent years and hope things will go smoothly for them one way or another. I'm due another phonecall with a friend of mine at the moment and, give her her due, I expect she will say "I'm glad I listened to you Money - every time you screeched 'Dont do it' at me at steadily increasing volume every time I wondered about moving to the Continent". I know how she has made several noticeable Wrong Decisions in her life and was absolutely set on persuading her out of that one - and am feeling glad the new house she recently bought is still in Britain and I dont have to worry about her and it sounds like she is perfectly happily renovating it. Whew!

GreyQueen

I have personally experienced great emotional distress, despair, upset, rage and cried after every single general election where the tories won.

And it's not bliddy fair and all of them should have been re-run so my side could get another chance to win. *stamps foot*

Those campaigning for another referendum are operating on a supposition that it would end in the opposite answer. I wonder why they think that? And what would the do if it didn't? Demand another and another?

Sometimes, in the real world, you don't get what you want. And you have to get over it, get over yourselves and get on with life.

I'm another person thinking the EU is dying and that I will live long enough to see the back of it.

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MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

OK but I can understand that people who voted to remain are in some considerable distress because the decision to leave is the result of the referendum.

Every election (be it a referendum, General Election, Council Election, or whatever), is going to leave some people upset and disappointed.

There have been many elections where, IMO the wrong person/party won, but that's how life and democracy works.

Sometimes, you don't get what you want.

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Never a truer word said BOB!

Nargleblast

We are where we are, and we need to let the shock of the result sink in and try not to get caught up in all the hysteria that has been going on. I am pleased with the result, but acknowledge that 48 per cent of voters don't share my view. It is vitally important that the concerns of that 48 per cent are addressed when negotiating our release from the political superstate that none of us voted for. Just as, I hope, the concerns of the Leave faction would be addressed if the result had gone the other way.

We are in for interesting times, and I am more than up for the challenge. Generation Snowflake will have to grow up and accept the realities of this world. I did not vote for this government last year, and technically due to the actual numbers voting, it was a minority of the eligible voting population who voted them in, but I accepted it and got on with life.

I get a bit narked when I see people like me who voted Leave being labelled as effing ignorant, racist, uneducated coffin dodgers who have sold this country and its young people down the river. If you're bored, have a look at some of the Discussion Time threads - one person was saying that only people with degrees should be allowed to vote. Yes, really, quite amusing really.

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GreyQueen wrote: »

And what would the do if it didn't? Demand another and another?

Very probably.

I'm another person thinking the EU is dying and that I will live long enough to see the back of it.

I give it, at most, 10 years, and that's assuming the other nations currently pushing for their own referenda, don't get them/vote stay.

If they vote leave, I give it a few years at most.

The EU is a sick animal, which should be put out of its misery, ASAP.

GreyQueen

I wonder how the generational war narrative which is being promulgated currently (virtuous noble youth for Remain, selfish oldsters for Brexit) squares with the large ex-pat communities of pensioners who voted overwhelmingly to Remain?

I expect those are the good old people, as opposed to the bad old people. Although it wasn't being done to protect the interests of the youngsters, it was being done from selfish motivations to protect rather comfortable expatriate lives in warmer, sunnier parts of Europe.

I personally think we should be polling the pre-schoolers. Their generation is going to be the most affected by this and only they should be allowed to decide.