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MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

An interesting little article on the newsfeed this morning saying that Ted Cruze the American politician is saying that Barak Obama is visiting the UK in the near future and will be pushing for the UK not to brexit, he feels that Mr Obama might make the brits feel even more inclined to exit by stating a preference for us to stay. Do they not understand that we can ALL make up our own minds over this? nothing will make me decide on how to vote other than how I see the situation, not even the American President, who I have a great respect for, has the right to try to influence our personal thinking on something as important to the UK as this. We are British and capable of making our own decisions over the EU without interference from anyone!!!

I have to admit I find this quite amusing, since Mr Obama along with the rest of the American population will be celebrating 'Independence Day' in July. Perhaps he thinks it would be better to join up again. If we came out could we have our own 'Independence Day' :rotfl:

nuatha

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

An interesting little article on the newsfeed this morning saying that Ted Cruze the American politician is saying that Barak Obama is visiting the UK in the near future and will be pushing for the UK not to brexit, he feels that Mr Obama might make the brits feel even more inclined to exit by stating a preference for us to stay. Do they not understand that we can ALL make up our own minds over this? nothing will make me decide on how to vote other than how I see the situation, not even the American President, who I have a great respect for, has the right to try to influence our personal thinking on something as important to the UK as this. We are British and capable of making our own decisions over the EU without interference from anyone!!!

I disagree Lyn, we're going to have a lot of people telling us how to vote, in addition to the one's who already have (and the voices who are telling us which way some people want us to vote, without knowing themselves). It might be Obama that has the argument or insight that tips the balance in my mind as to which way to vote, it might be Merkel, or it might be someone I overhear in the pub. I fairly sure its not likely to be a major player in the stay and go campaigns since I wouldn't recognise a truthful insight in all the twisting they are doing.

All of them are welcome to express opinions, none of them have any right to influence a voter or the vote. What I do hope is that whichever way the referendum goes that the Government sticks by the result - since I live in an area where a plebiscite against a unitary authority resulted in the imposition of one I have my doubts.

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They are all allowed input into the debate but at the end of the hype I'm sure we will make our own decisions as to which way to vote on a personal level, I'll listen to all sides and make my own evaluation but currently I don't believe a single word on any of the sides so I have little confidence in getting it right. I WILL vote though because if I don't I'll have to live with someone elses' decision and not have the right to moan if they get it wrong!

Nargleblast

If Obama is coming over here to tell us how to vote in the EU referendum.......Ok, who's coming to the States with me to tell the Americans who to vote for as President?

I really think he should concentrate on stuff in his own country.

nuatha

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

They are all allowed input into the debate but at the end of the hype I'm sure we will make our own decisions as to which way to vote on a personal level, I'll listen to all sides and make my own evaluation but currently I don't believe a single word on any of the sides so I have little confidence in getting it right. I WILL vote though because if I don't I'll have to live with someone elses' decision and not have the right to moan if they get it wrong!

Now that I agree with 100% .
My real dilemma is that neither of the options are what I'd actually want. Since neither side actually knows what the consequences will be. So voting is a leap in the dark - not voting is an abdication of your right to complain no matter what the outcome - not that that will stop people from doing so.

nuatha

Nargleblast wrote: »

If Obama is coming over here to tell us how to vote in the EU referendum.......Ok, who's coming to the States with me to tell the Americans who to vote for as President?

I really think he should concentrate on stuff in his own country.

There are plenty of British opinions on who should or should not be the next US President.

GreyQueen

Nargleblast wrote: »

If Obama is coming over here to tell us how to vote in the EU referendum.......Ok, who's coming to the States with me to tell the Americans who to vote for as President?

I really think he should concentrate on stuff in his own country.

Schoosh up, nargleblast, I'll come with ya, I could do with a laugh. I'd like to vote from Donald's hairpiece. It's clearly a separate entity and can't be any worse that its host creature.

I'm busily ignoring all the propaganda about the referendum and getting on with the important stuff like squeezing an hour of allotmenteering in between work and dusk, and prepping my soil.

Politicians come and go but you know where you are with potatoes.

Cappella

GQ said

Schoosh up, nargleblast, I'll come with ya, I could do with a laugh. I'd like to vote from Donald's hairpiece. It's clearly a separate entity and can't be any worse that its host creature.

:rotfl::rotfl:

My dad used to say, "it's a funny thing. Doesn't seem to matter who you vote for, the government always seems to get in." I don't think he was 100% right, but the last 45 years of policy making in Britain have made me take prepping very seriously.
I've no idea which way I'll vote in the EU referendum, but I WILL vote. I'll make up my mind nearer the time, a lot can change in 18 months.

In the meantime I'm looking at our very small back garden and thinking of putting in black currants and some gooseberry bushes to stretch our soft fruit production. We've lots of cuttings on the allotment from our old bushes and no space to plant them in. The gardens north facing, quite dark and wet, and we haven't done a lot with it as the allotments are very productive, but now might be a good time for a makeover.

pineapple

nuatha wrote: »

There are plenty of British opinions on who should or should not be the next US President.

The difference is our Prime Minister isn't going over there to tell people how to vote. Piers Morgan got short thrift when he was in US and gave his opinion on gun control.
I can just imagine the reception if we sent someone over to 'advise'.

Maybe Obama will sway some of the undecided but it could also backfire imo.

Karmacat

pineapple wrote: »

Maybe Obama will sway some of the undecided but it could also backfire imo.

I've just informed yougov of exactly that point in their latest survey.