Preparedness for when

NewShadow

COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote: »

And if we leave, they said we will never be allowed back in??

Unlikely... you can't predict the future.

maryb

Boris has just announced he is backing Brexit

nuatha

COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote: »

So if we vote to stay on n. The conditions that Cameron has asked for, that they have agreed to, will only last for 7 years?? And after that we are back to square one??

As far as I can see, the seven years relates to the "emergency brake" on in work benefits for non UK citizens and not to anything else.

And if we leave, they said we will never be allowed back in??

If we leave, we would never go back on the same terms, instead we'd be like any other new applicant, we'd have to accept joining the Euro, we would have to meet a whole set of economic criteria and we would be surrendering a greater amount of sovereignty. (The criteria for all new entrants to the EU. That's assuming we would want to return and that they would have us)

I think if we vote to leave, this might open the gates for other EU countries to day fook it, we want to go too..

If the prices of imported food from the EU go up, then surely this would stop Britain being a dumping ground for the glut of pork that is around at the moment.. ( or any other mass produced food that will be able n the future??

Or.....as a result all subsidies for certain food/ meat produce stop, and meat like lamb would be more expensive??? Or do they only have subsidies to make them more competitive in the EU market??

The price of food would rise, at least in the short term. Agricultural subsidies would evaporate, since they are EU, many farms rely on this income to balance their books or keep them in business, without the subsidies they either put their prices up, go bust or sell their land for development. We'd also not be in a position to restrict the import of GMOs without a significant change in government attitudes.

Think I am confusing myself now, by trying to think about it all..

Also would landrover be able to make the defender again?? As it was because of certain EU legislation that they stopped making it:D

If Landrover had wanted to continue with the Defender line they could have done. They've made a number of changes over the years to meet changing legislation, they could have continued to do so. One of the problems with the Defender is that they were designed to be almost infinitely repairable - that doesn't help sales of new vehicles. (Or of Landrover making parts, since the majority of that business goes to pattern part manufacturers)

I'd like to find a good guide to the implications of the referendum - the problem will be that everything we are told will have a political agenda and politicians have a long history of bending the truth outright lying and we'll only know in hindsight how good or bad the result is.

NewShadow

So... leaving Europe - worst case scenario - prepping.

Factors to consider (short term - next 6 months - 2 years):

Food prices - prices could go up - even during the run up to the vote, as currency fluctuations and uncertainty effect the market
Economic - Unemployment could go up as businesses hedge their bets
Utilities - Power bills could go up - We do import a lot of power at the moment, but then again we also sell a fair whack, and don't have to buy via Europe.
Civil unrest - their could be strikes or protests
Political - David cameron could likely have to resign (leaving us leaderless), and Scotland could secede from the union

Hold on... that last one ... were we talking worst case?

Any negative options I've left out?

So, how do you prepare?

NewShadow

nuatha wrote: »

The price of food would rise, at least in the short term. Agricultural subsidies would evaporate, since they are EU, many farms rely on this income to balance their books or keep them in business, without the subsidies they either put their prices up, go bust or sell their land for development. We'd also not be in a position to restrict the import of GMOs without a significant change in government attitudes.

... or the number of farms/farmers (which is kept artificially high by the perverse incentives of the subsidies) will naturally reach an economically sustainable level?

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COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote: »

And if we leave, they said we will never be allowed back in??

Another excellent reason to vote leave.

jk0

How about this for an idea to keep everyone happy:

England, Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland all have separate EU referendums. If anyone votes to stay in, the other countries devolve from the UK, (and by virtue of that from the EU).

curiousralphy

jk0 wrote: »

Has anyone any experience with these?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003VE0ZL6?refRID=H2YYZK8TPS2B5HEFWVW0&ref_=pd_ybh_a_9



I'd never heard of them until a few days ago. I get the impression they are to get you to a garage without the effort of changing the wheel. Is it worth buying a kit?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ring-Automotive-RAC600-Compressor-Including/dp/B000UPEHJU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1456079673&sr=8-1&keywords=tyre+air+car

An aircompressor might be helpful, from what I hear of the tyre plugs they only last for short distances and your tyre will be flat by the time you notice it so you have to pump it up anyway.

I bought the one above because the local garage always dumps stuff in front of their air compressor and this seemed a cheap way to pump up the tyres at home and it works great. One night I was driving past a building site and somehow managed to get a nail just in the side of the tyre and couldn't change it due to a particularly tenacious locknut. I left the nail in and pumped the tyre up thinking it might get me home if I did it every few streets but I got a good 15 min drive home without any trouble. I pumped it up again the next morning and made it to the garage no problems.

Have only had 2 flat tyres in 20 years of driving but I fill the tyres all the time so it has been worth the money. So easy to use as well, just plug it into the cigarette lighter, the other end to the tyre valve and push a button.

jk0

Thanks Ralphy,

I have a friend who is very hard up. When he got a puncture, every journey we took for weeks was punctuated by getting the compressor out every 15mins! It drove me spare.

moneyistooshorttomention

jk0 wrote: »

How about this for an idea to keep everyone happy:

England, Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland all have separate EU referendums. If anyone votes to stay in, the other countries devolve from the UK, (and by virtue of that from the EU).

No...no....no...no...no:eek:. That would give the nationalists a field day....

Not a happy picture either for all those of us who have moved elsewhere in Britain - that might find we had inadvertently moved to another country iyswim (when we thought we had just moved to another area of the same country). I know nuatha will disagree with me on that one.....LOL. Almost like moving to Spain and finding one had woken up in France in effect...