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  • fuddle
    fuddle Posts: 6,823 Forumite
    daz enjoy your coffee machine. :D If your odd treat is a coffee pod in your machine then enjoy that treat ;) I have a coffee pod machine. I haven't had pods since around May but things have turned recently and I may just be able to go back to sitting under my pallet/scrap wood arbour that DH made and enjoy a coffee pod fuelled 10 minute break with the sound of the birds and my news catch up. As treats go... not bad ;) Each to their own.

    Lyn you will be a hoot as an aging grey. Boy I would love to be your carer, you would give me heck! I loved the gusto customers who gave me a run for my money when I was caring. I have not ruled it out again by no means. Beats sat in an office :D
  • nuatha
    nuatha Posts: 1,932 Forumite
    Doveling wrote: »
    I wonder why, if bombs can be sent within the hour, how come aid flights (in some cases) take weeks to put together?:(

    Thinking in general here, earhquakes, floods etc as well as refugees.

    This mission would have been planned in advance - even if the vote had gone the other way, it would have been seen as useful training to have the missions planned and updated. We've known for months that Cameron wanted another vote, but would wait until he was sure he could win - if he couldn't win this after Paris, he'd never win it.

    Disasters tend not to give advance warning, there can also be a problem with what the country being aided will allow or not - when you're bombing a country, niceties like flight permissions tend to be ignored. In the Nepal earthquake we flew helicopters into India, but Nepal decided it didn't want them in its airspace. Generally we wait until we've sorted out the political permissions before sending aid.
  • Frugalsod
    Frugalsod Posts: 2,966 Forumite
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    daz278 wrote: »
    i only have 3 or 4 coffess a week..... but i get your point....em wonder what use by date the pods have? will have a look
    They are well marketed and super convenient which is why they sell. Apparently the good old cafetiere is probably the best method for making coffee. I have a coffee filter machine by Philips with an insulated jug which is great. I had to get it from Germany as the UK price was £30 more, but I can use filter paper and any coffee. Though I am also have a permanent metal filter that just needs to be washed, which is great in a serious SHTF situation, I have a two cup drip for it to be used with and so only need boiling water and ground coffee for a good cup of coffee.

    If you are happy with it that is fine. I just looked at the long term running costs before I decided against any such system.
    It's really easy to default to cynicism these days, since you are almost always certain to be right.
  • fuddle
    fuddle Posts: 6,823 Forumite
    Frugalsod you don't know why people buy coffee pods but it is interesting read the reasons why you think you know why they sell.

    Personally, for me, I buy the pods because I like the taste. I am not a coffee drinker but I like a latte on occasion. This way I get my treat, when I can afford it. I'm not interested in the best coffee, certainly not interested in being a connoisseur, I get headaches with anything too strong so this suits plus the machine can give my children a hot chocolate, my husband something stronger and heck I could have a green tea with mint should I feel so inclined!

    It's an occasional treat for around 50p a cup. It works for us. I am not a consumer and actually I'm a marketers nightmare but I did my own research and came to the conclusion that I would buy a pod drinks machine.

    I do agree with you that it's a way for drinks company to make money and for that reason I don't buy the green tea and mint pods as I don't feel it's value for money and it's exactly why I also have hot chocolate in the cupboard too, along with tea and coffee. It's a treat - when there's money to be able to afford it.

    I'm pleased you have been able to find a system that you're happy with, that's all that matters.
  • Frugalsod
    Frugalsod Posts: 2,966 Forumite
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    fuddle wrote: »
    Frugalsod you don't know why people buy coffee pods but it is interesting read the reasons why you think you know why they sell.

    Personally, for me, I buy the pods because I like the taste. I am not a coffee drinker but I like a latte on occasion. This way I get my treat, when I can afford it. I'm not interested in the best coffee, certainly not interested in being a connoisseur, I get headaches with anything too strong so this suits plus the machine can give my children a hot chocolate, my husband something stronger and heck I could have a green tea with mint should I feel so inclined!

    It's an occasional treat for around 50p a cup. It works for us. I am not a consumer and actually I'm a marketers nightmare but I did my own research and came to the conclusion that I would buy a pod drinks machine.

    I do agree with you that it's a way for drinks company to make money and for that reason I don't buy the green tea and mint pods as I don't feel it's value for money and it's exactly why I also have hot chocolate in the cupboard too, along with tea and coffee. It's a treat - when there's money to be able to afford it.

    I'm pleased you have been able to find a system that you're happy with, that's all that matters.
    I am no connoisseur either. Most of the time I am perfectly happy with Aldi or any own brand gold variety instant. When I want a treat I will use a mid strength (3 out of 5) ground coffee which is perfectly acceptable to me. Yet this still does not come close to 50p a cup.

    It is not about which produces the best coffee or the cheapest. Many will love the convenience and simplicity of pod systems. Personally I think that they are a very expensive way to drink coffee at home, though it is your money and how you spend it is your decision. If you are a regular Starbucks coffee drinker it probably does save you money compared to that way of drinking. If you drink a lot of coffee it simply adds up to a lot of wasted cash in my opinion.
    It's really easy to default to cynicism these days, since you are almost always certain to be right.
  • pineapple
    pineapple Posts: 6,934 Forumite
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    Frugalsod wrote: »
    They are well marketed and super convenient which is why they sell. Apparently the good old cafetiere is probably the best method for making coffee.
    I use a china filter with an unbleached paper filter insert placed over a mug..
    Best thing I ever had though was a mini insulated mug/cafetiere. Great for those of us flying solo with a habit of letting the coffee go cold :D
  • fuddle
    fuddle Posts: 6,823 Forumite
    I agree with you Frugalsod it is an expensive way to drink coffee at home, that's why my machine has been idle since May.
  • greenbee
    greenbee Posts: 17,891 Forumite
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    Interestingly, coffee pods may be a more economical way of drinking coffee for those who drink less - if you are only an occasional drinker, your large pack of ground coffee may deteriorate before you finish it. The pods stay fresh. There's more than one way to look at the issue - if you're making a financial decision you need to do a full analysis looking at all the influencing factors, all the options and include NPV (net present value - the change in the value of money over time) when working out the return on investment. NPV is particularly important for any long-term investment, so vital for preppers to know whether they should be investing in TP, beans, chocolate, coffee or tinned toms at any given time ;)
  • Frugalsod
    Frugalsod Posts: 2,966 Forumite
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    greenbee wrote: »
    Interestingly, coffee pods may be a more economical way of drinking coffee for those who drink less - if you are only an occasional drinker, your large pack of ground coffee may deteriorate before you finish it. The pods stay fresh. There's more than one way to look at the issue - if you're making a financial decision you need to do a full analysis looking at all the influencing factors, all the options and include NPV (net present value - the change in the value of money over time) when working out the return on investment. NPV is particularly important for any long-term investment, so vital for preppers to know whether they should be investing in TP, beans, chocolate, coffee or tinned toms at any given time ;)
    You are right there are ways that justify the pod systems. It is down to personal needs and preferences. I do not bother with NPV analysis to decide on purchase. If it saves me money a simple payback method is good enough. Also you do not have to justify every single decision on a money savings basis. I bought my titanium Kenwood Chef for £699 I could have got a cheaper version for much less and the payback would have been a few months rather than the 18 months it took in the end, but that is what I wanted. I had looked at the idea of a pod system but it was the business model that deterred me, plus being locked into a specific range of coffee that ended that thought.
    It's really easy to default to cynicism these days, since you are almost always certain to be right.
  • We've had a Nespresso coffee maker for about 3 years now, it was a joint Christmas and birthday present to us both from the girls and we use it every day and enjoy to the full the excellent coffee it produces. We neither one of us can abide instant coffee now, no matter how good the brand as it always tasted dusty compared to the pods. I wouldn't consider going out for coffee at the prices coffee shops charge and the pods we use are somewhere under 40p each so we don't feel profligate for spending the money on them. It's horses for courses though we find we waste no coffee at all this way but when we had a filter coffee maker and a cafetiere there was often coffee left at the end of the day that got discarded. It works for us!
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