Preparedness for when

grandma247

CTC don't, feel too bad about your post. A very close relative actually had that happen a few years ago. We waited to see if anything happened but nothing did in that or the next few years. After reading your post I now think that either it is one person or maybe a group of them doing this randomly maybe to scare people or in some way make themselves feel good. This was in a very large quite new northern shopping mall. My relative is not given to making things like this up so there may well be some truth in the stories just not real threats but that is the kind of place that has been targeted in the past so you need to always be alert. Personally I hate going into these places because I find them stressful.

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PINEAPPLE the Ben Fogle programme last night was simply inspiring, what an amazing family and a very hard but 'real' lifestyle, I loved every second. The taper is actually a RUSHLIGHT and the poor in the UK ran on them for many centuries, there will be a making method on the internet. It's a little fiddly and they only burn for a maximum of 1/2 an hour and you have to continually (about once every 5 minutes) adjust them in the clamp that holds them as they burn down very quickly, you move them up about an inch at a time. In an emergency if you had enough tallow to spare you could make them but I think they have to be aged a little before you burn them, I might be wrong there though.

RAS

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Yorkshire-Shepherdess-Amanda-Owen/dp/0283071966

Hubbie rented the farm before they met.

Her book make interesting reading; the life style not too different from my own early life. However I realised when I grew up that it did not prepare me for some aspects of urban living.

Having said that, when I was last up there it was a joy to see the place vibrant when it had been so sad when I first walked through many years ago.

pineapple

That family has eight kids. Eight! :eek:
I guess they don't have Sky then....;)

Frugalsod

pineapple wrote: »

I missed the part about how they funded the farm in the first place. It seems to me that money is still the backer for many back to nature lives. For example woodland woman actually owned the land from her previous existence.
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Yes that is the problem and if you own your own land being able to use it as such may not always be possible. Neighbours may protest to the council so you cannot use it as you intend. Also land owners may not appreciate others living on their land, unless there are thousands of people with pitchforks.

moneyistooshorttomention

pineapple wrote: »

Is anyone watching Ben Fogle's series about people who gave up 'civilisation' to live new lives in 'wild' UK? Sorry if this has been mentioned.
I think it was last week they showed some woman who had gone to the extreme of living in a hut in woodland with no water or electricity. It had cost her her marriage. Last night they featured a family on a sheep farm in the Yorkshire Dales. Missed the beginning but came in when one of her many kids was demonstrating his home made candle/taper - basically a reed which had been dipped in fat.
I missed the part about how they funded the farm in the first place. It seems to me that money is still the backer for many back to nature lives. For example woodland woman actually owned the land from her previous existence.
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I watched a bit of the first one and all through the second one (ie the woman living in the mud hut). I will admit to getting distracted by the warts on her chin on the one hand (yeh...I know...I know...but, in my defence, and I'm a "visual" person) and thinking "But she's got three children hasn't she:lipsrseal?" on the other hand....and my cynical-ometer turned on when she started spouting "I'm so environmental" type comments....

Its been my experience (ie from people I've met to date) that it does tend to take money (and the confidence it brings) to live a more unusual lifestyle a lot of the time and my personal take on her was that "She's getting a sense of power from doing the Wise Woman bit on others:cool:".

Hmmm....I'd be more interested personally to see the one who "really does" get the environmental considerations - wotshisname that lives on no money in a caravan??? Cant recall his name right now...

I think I'd better not watch the shepherdess one - as my cynical-ometer would be positively screaming at me....but will watch whatever-one-it-is that comes up after that (if there is a 4th one).

Frugalsod

pineapple wrote: »

I think when you read of folks being defiant and saying they will not be cowed by terrorism, it's more a matter of finding it hard to believe it will happen to you. When as a teen I got swept out to sea, my first thought was one of incredulity as in 'but this only happens to other people'. And mostly of course, it does.
If on the other hand there was credible evidence that terrorists were going to be targeting the no 59 bus into town at 9.30am, would I be getting on that bus at 9.30am? Hell no...:D

Yes but accidents are accidents and we accept them as just that. A terrorist incident while traumatic is exceptionally rare in the UK and it is a simple fact that people are not always good at judging risks.

Getting swept out to sea does have risks but what did you learn from that experience?

The risks of terrorism are climbing but probably in areas you never even contemplated. The Norwegian killings a few years ago killed as many by a single man than a gang of muslim terrorists in Paris or London. Far right extremists have also caused more fatalities in the US than muslin extremists. Both varieties are probably a growing threat in this country as well.

You are far more likely to win the lottery than die in a terrorist incident. Obesity, smoking, cars domestic fires all kill far more every year than terrorism for most people. If you were living in a war zone like Syria then yes it becomes a risk but I still think that even there that most deaths are collateral to the intended targets.

COOLTRIKERCHICK

What channel are the Ben fogle programme on?? I will watch them on catch up

pineapple

Channel 5
http://www.channel5.com/shows/ben-fogle-new-lives-in-the-uk/episodes/episode-2-823

cbrown372

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

PINEAPPLE the Ben Fogle programme last night was simply inspiring, what an amazing family and a very hard but 'real' lifestyle, I loved every second. The taper is actually a RUSHLIGHT and the poor in the UK ran on them for many centuries, there will be a making method on the internet. It's a little fiddly and they only burn for a maximum of 1/2 an hour and you have to continually (about once every 5 minutes) adjust them in the clamp that holds them as they burn down very quickly, you move them up about an inch at a time. In an emergency if you had enough tallow to spare you could make them but I think they have to be aged a little before you burn them, I might be wrong there though.

They are a lovely family aren't they! I remember watching them on the Ade Edmunson tour he did of the Dales, she had a new baby then too

They rent their farm so I don't see where anyone reckons they have money but then there is nothing like discussing a programme that you have never watched and making your mind up about the people in the programme.