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2tonsils wrote: »

The essential oil I mentioned is called May Chang...you can use it in those oil burners or put a drop on to stop insects biting. You can also use it on stings. It can be used diluted in water to disinfect and clean the house. I believe that Amazon sell it but I bought it from someone who imports them. It cost me 3.50 euros for ten ml. It lasts for ages as you only need a drop or two.

I will add the links to the weather reports when I post them, but most of it is given to me personally as I help many of them with sharing info and doing translations. All the information I have posted is available to the general public.

No worries I have found the website it is lifted from, it would surely be polite to acknowledge the author though?

http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?action=news;storyid=6052;sess=

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Interesting thoughts 2T I wonder what we all would consider to be valuable enough to actually aquire that would be viable bartering currency if we didn't have the gold?

I wonder if medicines would become valuable enough to be used? that's probably not an ethical suggestion but might be a sensible one?
Things that last for years without deteriorating are soaps, sugar,spirits, and I guess things like shower and bath products would stand a long time in storage also washing powders/liquids and loo rolls too. None of these are (with the exception of the spirits) expensive to aquire in bulk and most are not too large to store for a considerable time and if they aren't being made might be very desirable products as stocks run short?? I'd feel them a luxury if I'd not been able to get them for a while but I don't know what the rest of the world would value them at???

RAS

This discussion reminds me of the situation in which friends found themselves. They met behind the very Iron Curtain and after several years together managed to get her a tourist visa which allowed him to come back to the UK.

They managed that for a bit, with her returning to see her family but a couple of years later the rotating tourism visa (used by a lot of Commonwealth citizens) was getting difficult so they decided to marry. Whilst waiting for her spousal visa to come through, Russia rolled into Poland, Lech went to jail and the miners were shot.

It was a while before they were able to get the paperwork for him to go over to Poland. They knew the situation was difficult and asked her mum what the family needed. "Soap and matches, I can barter anything for them."

So they loaded up with cash and carry quantities of both and some duty free on the back seat. The trick was to have an opened packet of ciggies from which the guard could request one. And to give him the rest of the packet because you had decided you "did not like the brand". Cue super light customs inspection.

When they parked up late at night they had to extract all the goodies. Mum refused to take any money at all because she could keep the family for 6 months on the soap and matches.

On the other hand local newly weds all started life with a cooker and either or both of a washing machine and fridge, even though the official waiting list were years long. Polish workers took it as a point of national honour to remove as many components as possible from the Soviet industrial system and a parallel informal manufacturing system provided the goods to local people.

GreyQueen

I remeber Dmitry Orlov writing about the same phenomenon about workers pilfering the components of the white goods, stoves etc, from their various workplaces and getting them assembled at home as gifts so that the new couple started married life with a full set of appliances.

Human ingenuity knows no bounds, does it? Someone I know sells eggboxes. He doesn't sell eggs from his hens, isn't allowed (allotment hens) he sells secondhand egg boxes. They just happen to accidentally have eggs inside them at certain times.

Bar soap is pretty much immortal stuff and is incredibly important and easy to underestimate until you're soapless. I bought big because I was in the right place to see that they cheap stores were reducing the pack size from 6 x 100g bars for £1 to 5 x 100g (it's now 5 x 90g, so stealth inflation means you're getting 1.5 fewer bars of soap for your £1). I won't be needing soap for a fair few years, but it's in the airing cupboard not eating anything, and if fell under a bus tomorrow, someone else could get the benefit.

thriftwizard

Human ingenuity knows no bounds, does it? Someone I know sells eggboxes. He doesn't sell eggs from his hens, isn't allowed (allotment hens) he sells secondhand egg boxes. They just happen to accidentally have eggs inside them at certain times.

Along the same lines, I sell jam jars with pretty fabric covers; not whatever preserve happens to be inside them, as I don't have a hygiene certificate, but "upcycled" jars. Certificate or no, people often come back for more; I've just had a phone call requesting 5 jars of apple butter. I do always make it clear to people that it's actually the jar they are buying.

Incidentally, you're free to sell home-laid eggs from your own premises without offending, provided they are going directly to the end user; i.e. they are not going to be resold, or used in a B&B breakfast, for example.

Butterfly_Brain

Talking all things gold
In the USA they had Executive order 6102 which meant that basically the government stole everyone's gold, people were only allowed to keep a small amount.
In Australia part IV of the Banking Act 1959 allows the Commonwealth government to seize private citizens' gold in return for paper money where the Governer General is satisfied that it is expedient so to do, for the protection of the currency or of the public credit of the Commonwealth."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_6102

In other words your government will steal your gold/money/food stores etc just to keep you in fear

GreyQueen

Morning all.

LOL about the jam-jars, thriftwizard, the bloke with the egg-boxes does it that way because you're not allowed to sell produce off your allotment, only to use it yourself or give it away. The lottie officer has been temporarily out-foxed, don't know whether they will decide they have bigger fights to get into or re-engage another day. We shall see. Meanwhile, when their hens are on full-lay, there's plenty for their family and if some accidentally fall into the secondhand egg-boxes, well, accidents do happen.;)

Re the executive order, they didn't go door-to-door, nor did they take the US citizens' gold. They ordered it bought to them and purchased it at a fixed and what seemed to be (to the sellers) a reasonable market price. Once they had what they thought was enough, they stopped buying and revalued the gold quite a bit higher. In certain circles, this is known as a nice little earner. The sellers would probably record a different opinion. Their grandchildren were certainly robbed of a nice inheritance, given how the price of gold (or the devaluation of the US dollar) have gone since the 1930s.

As to confiscations of the citizenry's gold, cash, food, land, guns, ammunition, young men of fighting age, vehicles, livestock (for the eating of), fine art works etc etc........ What we all need to understand is that the grubbyments will do whatever they want to do, whenever they want to do it. Sometimes they will write it into law first, sometimes they'll just send official forces. Which is why they need to be watched closely and whatever you value needs to be portable and preferably hideable, which would include hiding where you got it, so it can't be traced back to you.

You can't confiscate what you can't find, particularly if you don't even know it was there in the first place and that they should be looking for it. We've had a lot of history in these wee islands, and hoards of precious things hidden in time of trouble still turn up pretty regularly.

2tonsils

weather warning for the Uk from my friend Lee Barrett on facebook this morning

EARLY WEATHER WARNING FOR SCOTLAND & NORTHERN ENGLAND FOR SATURDAY & SUNDAY WERE LOOKING AT THE POTENTIAL FOR VERY HEAVY RAIN WHICH MAY CAUSE SEVERE SURFACE FLOODING WITH BETWEEN 20-40MM OF RAIN POSSIBLE FROM AN AREA OF LOW PRESSURE WITH A CENTER PRESSURE OF 995MB PLEASE PREPARE FOR THIS WEATHER EVENT & KEEP SAFE. (THUNDER & LIGHTENING EMBEDDED IN THIS RAIN TOO.) THATS UR WEATHER EARLY WEATHER WARNING EVERYONE.

paidinchickens

On our allotment a fella sells his eggs on a market stall, I didn't know there was any rules about selling eggs or produce.

I'm sure our rule book says we can sell our glut just not on the premises, not that I grow enough to sell unless people have started buying weeds

PiC x

GreyQueen

paidinchickens wrote: »

On our allotment a fella sells his eggs on a market stall, I didn't know there was any rules about selling eggs or produce.

I'm sure our rule book says we can sell our glut just not on the premises, not that I grow enough to sell unless people have started buying weeds

PiC x

It would be specific to the allotment agreement, and our council writes no-sales into its own agreement, other places will choose to do differently.

Love the idea of weed-buying customers. *drops into a shifty, spivvy tone and dons a trilby and an overcoat* 'ere, 'ave I got good gear for you, my love, wanna buy some gen-u-whine FAT HEN, it's the real deal, straight off the allotment, barely wilted, best rate in tahn.

PS my Mum is from the East End of London and I still have family there. Some of them have 'flexible' attitudes to honesty but Cousin X doesn't steal cars these days, although they never caught him even when he did.