Preparedness for when

COOLTRIKERCHICK

yep, its not only for animals lol.. our vet give us some when our pigs were attacked by dogs last year, so I went to the chemist and bought a bottle of it, and it is now in the pigs first aid cupboard in the caravan, along with stockhoms tar, purple spray, animal fly spray.. ( as the minute they get a scratch in this weather the flies just go mad on the cut).


I want to try and find an buy a 5ltre container of the stuff they use to wash down their wellies and wet weather gear... for us it would be for bio security for notifiable sp? diseases for the pigs, BUT it could be worth keeping for potential lurgies that humans can carry on their clothes/shoes etc..

jk0

COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote: »

I want to try and find an buy a 5ltre container of the stuff they use to wash down their willies ....

I just use Imperial leather on mine. (Nothing special.)

COOLTRIKERCHICK

jk0 wrote: »

I just use Imperial leather on mine. (Nothing special.)

hahahaha I always make that spelling mistake, I thought I had edited the mis-spelling before anyone noticed... lol

2tonsils

Have been out and about and apparently we only got the mild version of the storm, the marina had a hard time of it and some people got their gardens flattened and flooded in the north of the island. My friend jumped so much at the massive bang of thunder that started off the storm that she ricked her back. I slept through most of it, so missed the fun lol. The clouds keep building up and it looks like we will get more of the same, which was not forecast.

I had a nice swim at the pool then got stung on the bum by a very small but violent wasp! Luckily I had one of my strong anti histamines with me, with the result that I am going to be dreamy and gormless all evening (some would say that is my normal state lol). I have a real nasty big red sting now, the only thing keeping it down is the essential oil for stings I was given to try. I will be buying more of it as it also works as a mozzie repellent and smells like lemon Opal fruits.

Off to close my shutters upstairs and bring my washing in....the sky is black.


I see the Express is saying you are about to have the hottest August for 300 years. I don't know where they got that from. I will be looking at the charts later this week but I think you will continue to have hot muggy days and spells of very bad thunderstorms. We are having a cooler summer than usual 36 instead of 40 plus, but with storms which we do not normally get in the summer at all. This is a weird year weather wise!

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2tonsils wrote: »

I see the Express is saying you are about to have the hottest August for 300 years. I don't know where they got that from.

I believe it was from WeatherAction - Piers has quoted it on today's blog. Incidentally, I find it hard to read his style of writing - it puts me off buying the forecast for fear I'd have trouble deciphering it!

Frugalsod

jk0 wrote: »

Thanks. Yes, I was also thinking several years might be necessary.

Of couse, that could also be seized by the simple expedient of them declaring existing £10, £20, and £50 notes obsolete.

Yes but that would amount to erasing the wealth of children. Which government would be want to be tarred with the moniker that they stole from children, most of whom deal in cash?

If the government abolished cash they would have to deal with pensioners, who prefer cash. Ultimately if any government tried it then what would happen is that people would use their cash to buy food or weapons. Eventually the notes would be paid into the banks, in the same way that old notes are taken out of circulation right now.

nuatha

Frugalsod wrote: »

Yes but that would amount to erasing the wealth of children. Which government would be want to be tarred with the moniker that they stole from children, most of whom deal in cash?

If the government abolished cash they would have to deal with pensioners, who prefer cash. Ultimately if any government tried it then what would happen is that people would use their cash to buy food or weapons. Eventually the notes would be paid into the banks, in the same way that old notes are taken out of circulation right now.

Look at how it was done in Argentina where dollar holdings had been widespread and were seriously devalued practically overnight. A new currency could be introduced at £5 equals 1 new pound, with shops instructed that all stock is repriced at 50% of its old value for the new currency. That £100 item would be 50 new pounds, but your £100 in bank notes would only buy 20 new pounds , so the real price would by 2.5 times the old price.
(Dutch friends regard the Euro changeover as a 150% price rise)

If old notes can only be exchanged for new notes at banks, then the old notes will have no value at all for purchases.

jk0

I think we all had a little taster of the possibility of currency confiscation back in April didn't we? Remember how difficult it was to get rid of old £50 notes? Banks would change up to £200 worth.

Well, that's a lot of flaming use to someone that had thousands of pounds worth.

Russia got rid of its 100 rouble notes by nefarious means back in 1993:

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/07/25/world/russia-withdraws-older-bank-notes.html

GreyQueen

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

I wonder what value the gold would actually have in a post SHTF society??? I don't know that I value it now but what use would it actually have in a no electricity world???

Plenty, MrsLW. Was there electrictity in Ancient Greece? Nope, but there were gold aureus. Was the electricity in China in the 5th century BC? Nope, but there were gold coins called ying yuan. Was there electricity in Ancient Rome? Nope, but there were gold solidus. Ancient Persia? Yup - gold darics. Islamic world 7th century to present day - gold dinar. Italy and various eastern European countries? Ducats - 11th century to now. Britian? Gold sovriegns - 1489 to now.

Electricity is a new-fangled thing from the 19th century compared with the continent-spanning trade which was possible with gold and silver coins. Gold and silver worked for millennia whilst elastictrickery was just a nuisance that sometimes caused lightning fires.

Now, all stores-of-value and units-of-exchange are subject to circumstances. Imagine, if you will, that you have broken down in the desert many miles from nowhere with all your water already drunk and no rescuer in sight. It's a bad situation, and about to get much worse, because you are starting to hallucinate.

Out through the heat shimmer above the sands step I, GreyQueen, wearing a dented sunhat and a p-d off expression. I am burdened in the crook of my left arm with a substantial gold ingot and in my right hand I am holding a 17p of Tosspots value water. The ingot is 'worth' thousands of pounds and the water is 'worth' a few pence.

Cursing as I set down my burdens, I offer you a choice of having the gold ingot or the bottle of water, the very valuable metal or the cheap commonplace water. You can't have both. Will you take the ingot and hope to be rescued before dying of thirst (it's reckoned a nasty death btw) or will you take the bottle of water, hope to live long enough to be rescued and curse your overheated imagination?

You'd take the water if you had any sense. But if you live in a rainy country and have plenty of water already and I make you the same deal? You'd take the gold, wouldn't you, even if you couldn't immediately use it. Your kids or grandkids could benefit from it. Because trade is possible with a mere fraction of the population we have now, and with nothing nearly as sophisticated as electricity.

Now you might just think I'm playing silly burgers. People fleeing across international borders often buy their way out with gold; went to college with a bloke whose family were Vietnamese 'boat people' and they paid to be there and paid in gold. FerFAL reckons one gold ounce coin per family member is the usual grease to expediate fleeing a country.

ivyleaf

Ouch 2tonsils, sorry about your sting! Glad the essential oil is helping. Do you know what it's called in English? It sounds lovely

Mrs LW It seems the new £1 coin is coming in in 2017, so you have a little while yet to get rid of your current ones