Preparedness for when

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I have a pair of Halina Discovery 20X50 binos, which I inherited from my father.

They're quite old, but in excellent condition.

Rather like me in fact.

Frugalsod

Butterfly_Brain wrote: »

I totally agree, but sadly those who have been spoiled rotten by their parents whether the parents could afford it or not in many cases, have the same attitude.

These little monsters would be the first to rob any food from the plebs if the shtf because they would see it as their right.

But they will get a shock when the plebs who have seen what the banksters aided and abetted by MP's and Lords have been up to and have prepared for the worst do not play by Queensbury rules.

They will have a big shock coming to them, because if you look down on someone and sneer at them because they are poorer than you, then don't expect any help.

I totally agree. When it comes to people not having made the right decisions it might all be irrelevant if you did not go to the right school in the first place. The fact that you have the media with their poverty !!!!!! shows like Benefits Street shows how out of touch a lot of people are. There are millions of working people who would consider themselves middle class and have the home mortgage and all the trappings that come with it along with massive debts and are really only one disaster from bankruptcy and joining the dole queues that they criticised others being part of. They will have a hard awakening when things crash.

As for treating people badly because of the job that they do or that they are poor is appalling. Only the other day I was in a certain supermarket and they had run out of a particular item, in the evening. Anyway I said it was not the cashiers fault, and any such decisions over stock levels were probably above both her and the store managers pay grade, only to be told many people would blame the cashier for such missing items. Which makes me wonder about so many people.

I do see so many similarities with the French revolution as well, but that could be quite a way off as economic stagnation for the millions has been going on for 40 years in the US, where standards of living are now no better than they were in the seventies. So things could continue to get worse for the majority of us for many years. Though I think within a year being debt free will make a big difference to my ability to cope with any possible changes.

mardatha

You South-of-Coldstream lot all sound posh to me. I once said about an English colleague that I thought her quite posh... all the English erupted in fits of laughter and said NOOOO SHE'S ESSEX!! Which meant nothing to me and still doesn't lol. But then I did believe for years that she lived in a town called Saffend.

Butterfly_Brain

Yes I totally agree Frugalsod, we are cashing in one of our smaller pensions next year to pay off the mortgage, thankfully there isn't a lot left to clear.

I have just ordered more seeds for real seeds just to build up a good store of lots of different types of seeds.

We have also been stocking up on coal and wood for the stove, which has already proven to be one of the best investments that we have ever made.

I am very nervous of letting by store cupboard go below three months of food stuffs and preferably I would like to have enough to cover six months to a year of food just in case God forbid DH loses his job:eek: We have faced that situation too many times over the last 28 years

Three months is the average time that the DWP gets their fingers out to pay any benefits, that is without worrying about sanctions.

I have also been trying to save enough to pay bills for at least six months, I am quite a way off of that though

I really do not like the way the politicians are selling us out to the mainly American corporations and I think that the secret TIPP treaty will prove disasterous for this country

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It's not how you sound or look or dress or what you own that is important in this life it's how you behave, treat this wonderful world, your fellow humans and the livestock that inhabit this world with us and knowing your right place in the great order of things that really matters. I've seen the most unlikely looking folks do some extraordinarily kind things, it's always the pierced punk with the mohican and leathers who offers his seat to someone on the bus, it's always the well dressed little old lady with expensive clothes and dripping jewells who pushes straight to the front of the bus queue and expects to get on first, it's the fat loutish looking cheap tracksuited mid 40s man who asks if you're OK if you sit on a wall with heavy shopping bags and those who know you who drive past in thier expensive cars without giving a thought or a glance. Your behaviour and treatment of your fellow man says so much more about you as a human than anything else doesn't it?

GreyQueen

mardatha wrote: »

You South-of-Coldstream lot all sound posh to me. I once said about an English colleague that I thought her quite posh... all the English erupted in fits of laughter and said NOOOO SHE'S ESSEX!! Which meant nothing to me and still doesn't lol. But then I did believe for years that she lived in a town called Saffend.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

The Essex accent isn't posh, Mardywotsit. It's anti-posh. My last landlord was from Essex and told me I had more front than Sarfend, just because I asked if I could take the cooker and the fridge with me when I left. I mean, I'd done shedloads to his place for nowt, and he was auctioning it off shortly after I left anyway.......

He let me take the appliances. Fridge went to the great white goods place in the sky in 2012, but the cooker is still here and got a glowing bill of health from the gas safety checking engineer on Friday.

Yeah, I find the consipcious displays of wealth which some people seem to think appropriate rather worrying. I'm not talking in the elite echelons of society, as I certainly don't move in those orbits, but in everyday life.

I mean, if the economy goes badly rotten, do you really want to be seen tooling about in a car which costs more than some people's houses? If there was a riot in an urban area, and you happened to be in the thick of it in a Beemer or something lush, I wouldn't fancy your chances of getting away with it being undamaged, or even yourself being targetted.

Perhaps some of the affluent need to learn some decorum. Or start hiring security guards for themselves, their homes and their vehicles.

jk0, interesting article from PP. I've had a 48 hour wearable heart monitor thingy done and there's nothing wrong with my ticker.

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I suspect that those who wear thier wealth ostentaciously no matter from which eschelon of society would very rapidly become those who had no wealth to speak of, and those who boast about being able to live a 'rich mans' lifestyle would be those first bought to mind for a visit if the situation was survive or starve and perish. Not only is flashing your wealth and behaving in a hooray henry way obnoxious and vulgar it is also incredibly STUPID if you wish to retain ownership of your blingy posessions!!!

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Hello, I haven't been able to read the thread as often as I would like due to real life getting in the way. Similarly my garden needs a lot of TLC due lack of time over the last few months. I did manage to get some salad bits and pieces into the raised beds including a couple of varieties of radishes (from Li-dil). Everything is going in late and I'm keeping my fingers crossed that I'll get some decent crops later on in the summer.

Getting to the point, which is that we are having to be creative with what we do have from the garden until the later crops are ready , we have found that radish leaf soup is absolutely delicious. I use this recipe:

http://allrecipes.com/recipe/radish-top-soup/

I substitute the potatoes (as mine aren't ready) with powdered mash potatoes (sprinkled in) and I put a lot more of the green tops in so my soup looks a lot greener than the picture. I've tried both cream and yoghurt swirled through the soup, and both versions are very tasty. This is now my OHs favorite soup. I make a huge pan at a time and freeze the extra portions.

I'm also being creative with the radishes themselves. I've found this site and am trying out the recipes.

http://www.loveradish.co.uk/

It's a great SHTF veggie as it grows very fast - I've bought more seeds to keep us going through the summer. The extra large radishes (sorry can't remember the variety - starts with an R) are almost like small potatoes and don't seem to go woody. We are having them roasted.

I've also used turnip greens in the past to make soup.

ETA: the large variety is Riesenbutter - I've also grown Saxo which is also a nice radish.

mardatha

Radishes always make me think of Auf Weidersehn pet

Frugalsod

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

It's not how you sound or look or dress or what you own that is important in this life it's how you behave, treat this wonderful world, your fellow humans and the livestock that inhabit this world with us and knowing your right place in the great order of things that really matters. I've seen the most unlikely looking folks do some extraordinarily kind things, it's always the pierced punk with the mohican and leathers who offers his seat to someone on the bus, it's always the well dressed little old lady with expensive clothes and dripping jewells who pushes straight to the front of the bus queue and expects to get on first, it's the fat loutish looking cheap tracksuited mid 40s man who asks if you're OK if you sit on a wall with heavy shopping bags and those who know you who drive past in thier expensive cars without giving a thought or a glance. Your behaviour and treatment of your fellow man says so much more about you as a human than anything else doesn't it?

Yes there is serious lack of empathy with far too many. I have a simple rule of treating everyone equally, and how you would want to be treated yourself.