Preparedness for when

jk0

short_bird wrote: »

Hopefully, someone sells something similiar in the UK

http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2014/06/23/how-to-carry-major-appliances-on-your-bike/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MrMoneyMustache+%28Mr.+Money+Mustache%29

I bet I could make one of those out of speedframe:

https://www.google.com/search?q=speedframe&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=fm6oU6uiDMS9OZj4gIgG&ved=0CFIQsAQ&biw=991&bih=502

Not that I have a bike.

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Are they even street legal in the UK?

elaine241

Hello all
Interesting discussion re wealth and ostentatious displays of it. As some of you know I live on a farm so have plenty of space and a rambling house to go with it. Almost adjacent to us is an housing estate with a lot of detached houses. It makes me smile when our neighbours change their cars more often than their undies! Also they all seem to be fixated on labels, designer names and how they appear to those around them. These are the same types of people who waste so much like our friends whose moving chuck outs I scavenged! On the surface they all seem to have perfect lives with plenty of money. They often have an attitude towards us as "the poor peasants" as we don't care for designer gear unless you count my century old Hunter wellies. My oh does drive a new land rover as it works its guts out towing diggers and machinery everywhere and its more efficient to keep part exing every few years than having an expensive repair bill plus it needs to be 100% reliable. My oh often jokes he's the poor peasant who is outstanding in his fields! People have a perception of us as not that well off and often feel the urge to give us things they no longer have use for, hence step mum shopaholic regularly hands over bags of clothes,shoes,housewares that she's bored of. Apart from undies I have barely bought new clothes for years!! The reality is that we are debt free through hard work, buying cautiously, buying quality second hand, always looking for bargains and yellow stickers, "scavenging" when necessary ( liberating items destined for landfill), repurposing and generally living life through thrifty principles. I prep for potential disaster whether social, economic or zombie! Being prepared has given me a sense of security and satisfaction that we are at least a few steps ahead of the rest!

I work pt at a credit union and i am in charge of account arrears, legal action and overseeing decisions on loan applications. I regularly see peoples bank statements and expenditures and I'm always shocked at what people spend their money on, what is considered essential (£100+ month on sky) and how many have huge borrowing cars, catalogues, HP, etc just to maintain the image of being well off!!! These are people who would never go near a CS, buy secondhand or think about repairing items. My grandfather had a saying for these types that I regularly think of "fur coat and no drawers"!

Oh BTW pony club is not full of snobs, OK there are the stereotypical types as there probably are in every club or society. Many are hard working people who love horses and make lifestyle choices to enable them to ride and keep them. My sister works two jobs ,doesn't smoke,drink,go out, etc to enable her love of horses to continue. People often confuse country people who ride with snooty, stereotypes, especially those who are not from country areas.

Anyway I seem to have rambled on! This hooray Henrietta has got to go and check all the animals, horses included, before one puts ones feet up with a nice glass of Bollinger, YAH! ( OK home made wine!) :rotfl:

Frugalsod

short_bird wrote: »

Hopefully, someone sells something similiar in the UK

http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2014/06/23/how-to-carry-major-appliances-on-your-bike/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MrMoneyMustache+%28Mr.+Money+Mustache%29

My last house move was completed by myself with one of these.



I did it at night so nobody noticed, except on one night while I was waiting at the traffic lights waiting to cross the road a police car pulled up behind me. :T

Perplexed_Pineapple

You really can't tell who is well off from first appearances. The banks make it very easy to finance living beyond your means with debt, and it sucks people in to maintain the facade. We're not badly off according to the stats but you wouldn't think it by looking at our car or clothing - I guess in its way this is a type of prep in itself - not standing out from the crowd. This programme looks interesting about people who have lost housing they thought was secure: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27940701
Most people in regular employment are only a couple of paychecks away from losing their home, I think people on housing benefits may even be more secure so long as they play by the rules. We would be ok for a few months I think but would be good to be mortgage free. Can't see that happening any time soon though
Ok, off to see what else in the garden has been eaten be critters small and large since this morning..Seems to be a good summer for slugs and snails this year. I suppose we could forage the snails but I've never been a big fan of les escargots even with garlic butter.:eek:

Frugalsod

elaine241 wrote: »

I work pt at a credit union and i am in charge of account arrears, legal action and overseeing decisions on loan applications. I regularly see peoples bank statements and expenditures and I'm always shocked at what people spend their money on, what is considered essential (£100+ month on sky) and how many have huge borrowing cars, catalogues, HP, etc just to maintain the image of being well off!!! These are people who would never go near a CS, buy secondhand or think about repairing items. My grandfather had a saying for these types that I regularly think of "fur coat and no drawers"!

Another way of describing it as trying to "Keep up with the Joneses". I think many of us have been in the same situation at one point or another, it just takes something to make us rethink our ways. I wonder how many people are borrowing while trying to keep up with people who have their own serious financial mess?

elaine241 wrote: »

Anyway I seem to have rambled on! This hooray Henrietta has got to go and check all the animals, horses included, before one puts ones feet up with a nice glass of Bollinger, YAH! ( OK home made wine!) :rotfl:

I love my Bailey's. Okay mine is home made as well.

daz378

i always try to be two weeks in front rentwise by xmas(may i call it shoebox towers 2 GQ) with the 2 weeks rentfree i get anyway it helps with xmas expenditure. im saving up now for 10 days in tenerife in sept 2015. when hopefully will have paid of most of my credit card and be virtually debt free ...up at 6 am tomorrow for a 7 ..3 shift......stay safe

MrsAtobe

elaine241 wrote: »

Hello all
Interesting discussion re wealth and ostentatious displays of it. As some of you know I live on a farm so have plenty of space and a rambling house to go with it. Almost adjacent to us is an housing estate with a lot of detached houses. It makes me smile when our neighbours change their cars more often than their undies! Also they all seem to be fixated on labels, designer names and how they appear to those around them. These are the same types of people who waste so much like our friends whose moving chuck outs I scavenged! On the surface they all seem to have perfect lives with plenty of money. They often have an attitude towards us as "the poor peasants" as we don't care for designer gear unless you count my century old Hunter wellies. My oh does drive a new land rover as it works its guts out towing diggers and machinery everywhere and its more efficient to keep part exing every few years than having an expensive repair bill plus it needs to be 100% reliable. My oh often jokes he's the poor peasant who is outstanding in his fields! People have a perception of us as not that well off and often feel the urge to give us things they no longer have use for, hence step mum shopaholic regularly hands over bags of clothes,shoes,housewares that she's bored of. Apart from undies I have barely bought new clothes for years!! The reality is that we are debt free through hard work, buying cautiously, buying quality second hand, always looking for bargains and yellow stickers, "scavenging" when necessary ( liberating items destined for landfill), repurposing and generally living life through thrifty principles. I prep for potential disaster whether social, economic or zombie! Being prepared has given me a sense of security and satisfaction that we are at least a few steps ahead of the rest!

I work pt at a credit union and i am in charge of account arrears, legal action and overseeing decisions on loan applications. I regularly see peoples bank statements and expenditures and I'm always shocked at what people spend their money on, what is considered essential (£100+ month on sky) and how many have huge borrowing cars, catalogues, HP, etc just to maintain the image of being well off!!! These are people who would never go near a CS, buy secondhand or think about repairing items. My grandfather had a saying for these types that I regularly think of "fur coat and no drawers"!

Oh BTW pony club is not full of snobs, OK there are the stereotypical types as there probably are in every club or society. Many are hard working people who love horses and make lifestyle choices to enable them to ride and keep them. My sister works two jobs ,doesn't smoke,drink,go out, etc to enable her love of horses to continue. People often confuse country people who ride with snooty, stereotypes, especially those who are not from country areas.

Anyway I seem to have rambled on! This hooray Henrietta has got to go and check all the animals, horses included, before one puts ones feet up with a nice glass of Bollinger, YAH! ( OK home made wine!) :rotfl:

Elaine, from comments you've made on here, I'm fairly sure that I live on that new housing estate you mention. I currently can't grow veg because of the pollution from the steel works that used to be here, in fact our house was built on the site of the acid tanks. One of the most conspicuously wealthy families on the estate are currently being visited regularly by both Social Services and the Police.

auntymabel

I think you might be interested in last night's Radio 4 programme about our "special relationship" with the folk on the other side of the pond.

"Peter Hitchens re-examines the relationship between the USA and UK, suggesting that - instead of an intimacy based on their shared histories, cultures and language - the real relationship is one of tactfully-concealed hostility."

http://http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0477nrw[/URL

Includes a tape of John Foster Dulles and Admiral Burke discussing the possibility of sinking the British Fleet during the Suez crisis.

GreyQueen

Bedsit_Bob wrote: »

Are they even street legal in the UK?

Judging by some of the mutant bikes and trailer combos I see, the law hasn't caught up with this one yet. And long may that happy state of affairs continue. Of course, if your heavily-laden and large bike trailer damaged someone else's vehicle, or shed its load into the highway and caused a hazard for other road users, it might be something the Police would take an interest in.

Frugalsod, love the sack barrow. I was looking for something not dissimilar at an affordable price and found a newspaper trolley for £5 at a bootsale last summer. I have moved large appliances such as washing machines for a pal who moved 100 yds down the same street with a vintage mahogany railway barrow, plus my heavy blockboard wall unit was moved into this flat by the Sally Ann using a sack barrow. It's amazing what you can do if you have to.

A few years back, I accosted a bloke walking down the street who was towing the most fabulous trolley. I just had to talk to him about it. It was about the size of a single bed, but only two-thirds as long, with a flat bed made of wooden slats, the two front wheels were mounted on a swivellable axle and it had wheels about 12" across with proper inflatable tyres and was towed easily by a rope handle.

He told me he'd built it himself for about £40 in materials to handle a local housemove within the estate. It cost the same to build as it would have been to hire a Transit van for the day, but he saved not paying for fuel, plus he still had this very useful bit of kit afterwards. He was toddling down to the dump with some stuff. His top tip was not to have the wheels too small, you want them about the size of a dinnerplate as a minimum. I'd seen this guy breezing past the line of cars queueing to get into the tip, and the green-as-grass envy of the motorists stuck in their expensive steel cans whilst he just cruised on up to the tip, and they'd barely moved by the time he'd cruised right out again.

elaine, there is a phrase in the USA; big hat and no cattle, originally for those people who wear the rancher's gear but don't have the ranch. I've also heard the fur coat and no knickers comment applied with scorn to a variety of human bean called The Morningside Lady. Morningside being a rather hoity-toity district of Edinburgh. My good self has been comprehensively-dissed by this breed before now. Water off a duck's back, love.:rotfl:

I think I am going to be spending quite a bit of time on that website mrmoneymustache, looks like some interesting stuff there.

Now, I'm not a wealthy woman. My annual income is just over £10k and I need just under £5k each year to pay the rent and council tax. But I do very nicely because I don't waste money on flashy carp which is worth pennies on the pound seconds after you buy it. No cattle here, nor fur coats, but I did drop my hands on a great Hel l y H a n s e n jacket for 50p a few days ago. That's a nice bit of gear. I shall enjoy owning that. It woudn't have a jot more functionality if I'd bought it full-price as opposed for the price of a newspaper in as-new condition.

Today is my last leave day and I plan to interwebulate for a while, head up to the lottie, back home and then do some creative mending with several of the best bits of several damaged sheets, to hopefully end up with one complete one at the end. It's a project for Mum, I volunteered because I like mending things.

And tonight (imagine drumroll) is archery night. Twang!!