Preparedness for when

Perplexed_Pineapple

Terrible times for flood victims and it looks scarily as though it could take a further month or more to settle down from the reports I've read. It is really a reminder that TPTB are really quite powerless against the power of nature and that events like this just come out of left field with no real warning. It's really encouraging to hear of communities supporting each other and less encouraging to hear reports of looting. We're low lying here but although the rivers are higher than I've ever seen them no major flooding yet (fingers and everything else crossed!).
GQ sorry to hear of your various break-ins and glad nothing major taken,.it is peace of mind that suffers most though I think. It's a reminder of the thin veneer of civilisation and if TSHTF seriously it would be very hard to secure anything that wasn't constantly under observation, and then with some pretty serious deterrents to evil-doers. Mind you if societal breakdown was accompanied by flooding (which it would if flood defences not maintained) I think we would be living on an island which might help :rotfl:
ETA: SWS that's bad but with 15 years employment you would be in for a decent redundancy payment and they may figure you would be heading for retirement soonish and put you to the bottom of the redundancy list for those reasons.

ragz_2

jk0 wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9g90L9-Dcc#t=14

This has been on recently implying that money in a TSB account is only used to provide loans or mortgages here in the UK.

What they actually say is 'support'. Is that a weasle word, that means the deposits are levered up by fractional reserve banking to lend out many times the amount of the deposits, or are loans actually fully funded by deposits?

Anyone know?

Glad someone else noticed... I overheard this advert earlier and did think it sounded far too good to be true. I am getting very cynical...

Today my sons came home from school with leaflets about school milk, having had a special [STRIKE]promotional event[/STRIKE] educational assembly on the subject. After reception class, where milk is free, you can pay for your child to have milk at school through this 'EU subsidised' school milk scheme, delivered by a company called 'Cool Milk'. At 22p per day for 1/3 of a pint. I can't exactly work out what the subsidy is meant to do, because this is not cheaper than me providing milk at home... so I have emailed them to find out more about it... I have suspicions it is just another way businesses benefit from so called 'subsidies'. There was a smarmy and rich looking doctor on the back of the [STRIKE]propaganda[/STRIKE] information leaflet, which extolled the virtues and benefits of milk (of which they then only supply in semi-skimmed because of the fat!).

I had a little rant on facebook but few people seemed concerned by this so I think I may be getting a little too 'tin-hatty' for my normal friends...

Frugalsod

ragz wrote: »

Today my sons came home from school with leaflets about school milk, having had a special [STRIKE]promotional event[/STRIKE] educational assembly on the subject. After reception class, where milk is free, you can pay for your child to have milk at school through this 'EU subsidised' school milk scheme, delivered by a company called 'Cool Milk'. At 22p per day for 1/3 of a pint. I can't exactly work out what the subsidy is meant to do, because this is not cheaper than me providing milk at home... so I have emailed them to find out more about it... I have suspicions it is just another way businesses benefit from so called 'subsidies'. There was a smarmy and rich looking doctor on the back of the [STRIKE]propaganda[/STRIKE] information leaflet, which extolled the virtues and benefits of milk (of which they then only supply in semi-skimmed because of the fat!).

I had a little rant on facebook but few people seemed concerned by this so I think I may be getting a little too 'tin-hatty' for my normal friends...

In fact you should easily be able to supply the milk cheaper yourself. Even getting it from the milkman would be comparable in terms of cost.

siegemode

Shropshirelass wrote: »

Hi everyone :wave:, have been lurking while short of time to post, takes me some time to keep up to date with this brilliant community.

Sympathy, warm (and dry) wishes to all suffering this weather - probably all of us in some way. We had an hour or so of snow this morning, but seems to be reverting to drizzly rain now - don't know what would happen if we got a serious snow cover on top of this freezing mud. Ground water ground level here too, growing pools in any fields with low areas, road surface water everywhere, fools driving too fast and causing spray which obscures other drivers vision and soaks pedestrians.


Quite a few car fires causing roads to be blocked in last few days, wonder if they might be due to wet electrics in cars that have driven through deep water?

As well as serious flooding of houses and streets of shops, it looks as if storm damage has destroyed sea walls, coastal roads and parking areas all along large stretches of Welsh coast. Media not reporting this, TPTB in denial of need for any costly action, probably delighted to avoid mention, and responsibility. Is it my paranoid imagination, or do we only get a reaction to a problem if the media can easily make a convenient story out of it.

Thank you for prompting us to start watching the local news from other parts of the country. We've watched Look North west in the past because FIL lives that way, but this week we've been watching bbc Wales and the local news coverage for the South and South West. Much more informative than what's been shown on the main news. Seeing so many other areas badly affected makes me more concerned about the long term effects of the flooding and yet few are talking about the effects on businesses, peoples jobs and the economy. A little has been mentioned about food prices and crops, but if you are unable to get to work or deprived of work through your place of employment being flooded then your income is lost, what then ?

Although we are lucky not to be at risk of flooding as such, the knock on effects will reach us. I feel angry and frustrated by the way this whole situation has been allowed to worsen and the lack of common sense and forward planning shown by TPTB. When the floods started those down river should have been helped more or perhaps helped themselves more. How can DC say that the money will be there to help people no matter how much is needed, the country's broke !

Whilst watching the Welsh news we learnt of the plans for managed retreat of coastal communities within 10 yrs due to a lack of money for coastal defence. How long before those in flood plains or near rivers or any other coastal areas are subjected to the same plans.

I feel so upset for those going through such stressful and traumatic times. How can anyone have any confidence in the guberment after this. The news seems to be praising DC for cancelling a cabinet meeting and visiting Devon, Somerset and the Thames Valley all in one day. All that tells me is that he neither spent much time in or spoke to many people in the places and it was merely a publicity stunt to give the impression he cares. I feel sickened every time I see an MP on tv.
Grrrrr :mad::mad::mad:

On the subject of cats, I can't imagine abandoning them but the logistics of having to take them with us if forced to leave our home would be a nightmare and I hope it never gets to a point when a decision has to be made. Our little princess is 21, deaf and quite frail and our prince is huge and runs from everyone and everything except us. Both are totally soft and spoilt so I doubt thry'd be capable of fending for themselves. We do at least have a reasonable stock of food for them and they each have a carrier.

COOLTRIKERCHICK

greenbee wrote: »

I was on the phone today to a colleague in an office in Europe. She mentioned that one of my UK colleagues was visiting and worried about his house '400 yards from the Thames'. I suggested maybe she shouldn't be the one to tell him that it was probably IN the Thames by now...

I've got two pairs of wellies GQ. Cheap unbranded 'made in China' from the farm supply shop wellies that everyone wears round here most of the time. And Aigles with neoprene lining that are longer, better fitting and WARMER. Which everyone round here wears when they actually need proper wellies. Haven't seen anyone in the actual country wearing hunters for donkeys years. At least, not people who intend to get them wet and muddy!

I have been trying to find a GOOD pair of willies, as I find the cheap ones My feet ache really quickly in them, and I must admit I don't feel confident wearing them in the fields, if that makes sense... they are ok, for walking on a wet road lol


found these ones on the bay, do you know what these ones are like??


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AIGLE-PARCOURS-2-VARIO-WELLINGTON-BOOT-WELLIES-NATURAL-RUBBER-HUNTING-SHOOTING-/310787115272?pt=UK_Sporting_Goods_Athletic_Shoes_ET&var=&hash=item485c5b0908




edit... also found the neoprene ones


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AIGLE-PARCOURS-ISO-2-KAKI-NEOPRENE-LINED-WELLINGTON-BOOTS-/110986017178?pt=UK_Sporting_Goods_Athletic_Shoes_ET&var=&hash=item19d748399a


also found wool lined ones in my size...


I find it hard sometimes to get willies to fit properly, they are too narrow on the calf....


I really do need to invest in a good pair of willies, but I am afraid I might get hassle if I want to return the,

VJsmum

COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote: »

I find it hard sometimes to get willies to fit properly,

:rotfl: I am so sorry to be so childish

COOLTRIKERCHICK

VJsmum wrote: »

:rotfl: I am so sorry to be so childish

I ALWAYS do it when I talk about wellies lol....


I wont bother changing the spelling, and it will prob bring a little smile and giggle to other people too, and we soooooo need that with this bloody weather...

paidinchickens

Wellie expert here!!

I have several pairs of expensive wellies. Not hunters as they are cheap rubbish with a label on.

Pacours are good they are like a cross between a walking boot and a wellie so good if your walking dogs on concrete as well as muck. Even older style Aigle are a very good boot.

Chameau. Comfortable, fit like a glove and better for summer I have found, lighter.

My fav are muck boots Tay sport as they grip well, a bit bulky but really comfy. I have killed many boots and these have lasted well. These are cheaper!!!

I have a crumbling spine so the area I do spend money is footware (shock absorbers)

paidinchickens

Pacours are wide around the calf, Muck boots stretch as it's material at the top x

COOLTRIKERCHICK

paidinchickens wrote: »

Pacours are wide around the calf, Muck boots stretch as it's material at the top x

so potentially the Pacours would be good for me, with the pigs?


as I must admit in certain parts of the pig paddocks the mud will come up eaily half way up the boot.


I used to have muckers years ago when I had horses, I found them ideal for around the yard ( these are the walking type boot ones)




edit.... I have just seen the muck tay boot on the bay, I have seen them round the Agri shows.. but I was a bit worried about, 'what if I get mud on the top half of the boot? would the water/mud go through to the inside ? lol