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I was always under the naive impression that Public Service which incorporates politicians and politics actually meant serving the public??? Where did it all go so wonky???

GreyQueen

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

I was always under the naive impression that Public Service which incorporates politicians and politics actually meant serving the public??? Where did it all go so wonky???

Been going on for far tooooo long.

Aesop 620-560 BC "We hang petty thieves and appoint great ones to high office."

I've often thought that a great way of cleaning house would be to allow all the would-be politicians to step forward and offer their services and then award them a lifetime ban from any kind of public office.

Or a short walk off a long pier...........:rotfl:Or the hempen fandango......

greenbee

GreyQueen wrote: »

Been going on for far tooooo long.

Aesop 620-560 BC "We hang petty thieves and appoint great ones to high office."

I've often thought that a great way of cleaning house would be to allow all the would-be politicians to step forward and offer their services and then award them a lifetime ban from any kind of public office.

Or a short walk off a long pier...........:rotfl:Or the hempen fandango......

I'm still convinced that we must be able to do some kind of genetic testing for politicians... then maybe they can all be sent to the outer edges of the universe to set up their own colony. We won't have to worry that they'll come back as none of them actually DO anything. THey might talk about it, but without people to do stuff for them, nothing will actually happen!

jk0

GreyQueen wrote: »

Been going on for far tooooo long.

Aesop 620-560 BC "We hang petty thieves and appoint great ones to high office."

I've often thought that a great way of cleaning house would be to allow all the would-be politicians to step forward and offer their services and then award them a lifetime ban from any kind of public office.

Or a short walk off a long pier...........:rotfl:Or the hempen fandango......

You know what quotation you reminded me of there, GQ?:

“The major problem—one of the major problems, for there are several—one of the many major problems with governing people is that of whom you get to do it; or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them.
To summarize: it is a well-known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it.
To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.”

I saw an interesting video today from a link on PP: http://hiddensecretsofmoney.com/videos/episode-4

westcoastscot

Mar be interested to hear how you get on with your wool underthingy - I've thought of getting an actual sheepskin for under or over my bedding.

I'm thinking of a time when everyone (men) of voting age had to take a turn in government - maybe early greeks?? sure I read it in Bertrand Russell - shall have to fish it out at the weekend and have a browse? Sounds sensible to me!
WCS

craigywv

hi all to the person asking about gutterings.........my window cleaner does mine for ten quid so maybe ask yours or whoever is the local cleaner hth

GreyQueen

westcoastscot wrote: »

Mar be interested to hear how you get on with your wool underthingy - I've thought of getting an actual sheepskin for under or over my bedding.

I'm thinking of a time when everyone (men) of voting age had to take a turn in government - maybe early greeks?? sure I read it in Bertrand Russell - shall have to fish it out at the weekend and have a browse? Sounds sensible to me!
WCS

There's something similiar somewhere in central/ south america. I'm blanking on the name of the organisation and of the country, fun feature of ME. Possibly a breakaway revolutionary government in part of Mexico? Saw a Guardian article about them and they oblige people to take turns by rota at living in the regional capital and making political decisions. It seems to be treated a bit like jury service; the people aren't particularly keen but recognise that someone has to do it.

I think you may be referring to classical Athenian culture. All freeborn men had to take part, although women, foriegners and slaves were exempt. Athenian culture is very interesting as it is as much a root of our own as anything via the Christian tradition.

They had juries which were 50 strong, I believe. And a fascinating practice of declaring an individual to be ostracised - essentially drawing lots and deciding that someone would be exiled for a period of time. A form of scape-goating.

They also invented vexacious litigation, for which the rest of us must give hourly thanks.

Aristophanes (dead greek dude) remarked Under every stone lurks a politician.

Personally, I feel this is a touch harsh. I normally find useful parts of the ecology under stones; toads, frogs, centipedes, woodlice etc etc. Whereas my MP, known in these here parts as That *&%$" idiot * seems to be devoid of all use or ornament.

* I have heard the MP referred to thus with a variety of expletives, from the patrician pensioner's bliddy to the more raucous effing. The Idiot bit is consistant across all ages, genders and backgrounds, though. Be nice to think of them down the JobCentre in 2.5 years.

jk0, thanks for that linkie, just watched two of them (had seen another one of them once before). Most informative and a very good presentation. I like Mike's calm style, particularly as I find some of the hyperbolic and over-excitable US crowd a bit wearing on this laconic Brit.

greenbee

GreyQueen wrote: »

Whereas my MP, known in these here parts as That *&%$" idiot * seems to be devoid of all use or ornament.

* I have heard the MP referred to thus with a variety of expletives, from the patrician pensioner's bliddy to the more raucous effing. The Idiot bit is consistant across all ages, genders and backgrounds, though. Be nice to think of them down the JobCentre in 2.5 years.

So the question is then, if the opinion is uniform... who the h*ll voted for him?:cool:

GreyQueen

greenbee wrote: »

So the question is then, if the opinion is uniform... who the h*ll voted for him?:cool:

About 500 more than the next candidate - believed to be uni students. Who have prolly long since left town. A pox on them.

greenbee

I guess the next question is was the other candidate any less of an idiot?