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 I want one of those and I want it now!Rosemary_Jane wrote: »I've always loved the idea of one of these - although not the price - with the trapdoor hidden under a rug. 
 http://www.spiralcellars.co.uk/larder/
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 Even better :think: - if there is anyone you don't like - you could leave the trap door open, put the rug over the top and sort of entice them across the gap :cool:0
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            Talking of tins for the store, M&S currently has an offer on the smaller round tins of Ham, Cured Turkey and Cured Chicken at 2 x tins for £3.00p. They are normally over £2 each so worth taking advantage of as the meat is good and solid inside and not full of water, Cheers Lyn xxx.0
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            HI all
 Managed to pinch the laptop back from the mancub while he was asleep :rotfl:.
 Just catching up on the last few days postings.
 Nuatha you and Mrs Nuatha look fabulous, looks like it was a beautiful blessed day.
 Ginny , so angry on you and Mr Ginny's behalf, if you need a stroppy scot to come down and shout at anyone just give me a holler (feeling a tad pre-menstrual so sure I could cause some chaos:D).
 D&DD hope you get some money back from the insurers but glad you didn't lose your stash.
 2T delighted you are settling in.
 Getting myself ready for a week in the mountains so don't get up to too much mischief when i'm away:rotfl:. so don't get up to too much mischief when i'm away:rotfl:.
 Doooooo love the pantry sooooo much, do you think it would be the same if i dug a big hole under the garage?
 Take care all
 Hugs WLL xMoving towards a life that is more relaxed and kinder to the environment (embracing my inner hippy:D) .:j0
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            WLL the water table here is so high at the moment if I dug a hole anywhere, I'd have a WELL!!! Cheers Lyn xxx.0
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            Hello again
 Sorry, getting the typing trots again, apologies for hogging space in advance!
 So, OH and I are having a [STRIKE]heated debate[/STRIKE] discussion about our camping trip, and our list is growing. I have a master list which I would like to share, (yes, I am a list-nerd, out and proud), as we are having a tiny bit of disagreement about what to leave out:
 TENT:
 Well, erm, tent (4 berth Khyam) with internal groundsheet.
 Poles for 'porch'
 Extra groundsheet
 Tent 'carpet' (for dirty paws)
 Tent repair kit (liquid sealant and tape)
 Rubber mallet
 Tent pegs
 SLEEPING:
 Sleeping bags x 2
 Travel pillows x2
 Roll-up bed mats x2
 Double bed air mattress
 Pump!
 Separate camp bed (as OH restless sleeper!)
 COOKING: (all stoves with Butane cartridges)
 Folding table and 2 chairs
 Camp Stove (2 rings and grill)
 Camp Grill (Provide extra large gas ring or flat griddle)
 Single ring gas stoves x2 for hiking days
 Long matches
 Small 8 piece pan set
 Gas kettle
 Small travel electric kettle (pitch site has electric)
 Electric connector for site
 Frying pan
 Picnic hamper (contains 4 place set of plates, bowls, cups, glasses, cutlery, can/bottle opener, small salt n pepper pots, mini chopping board, butter knife in cool box)
 Additional cool box
 Also - fish slice, scissors, tongs, wooden spoon, veg knife, oven gloves, cling film, foil, bread knife, teaspoons x2, thermos flasks x2, chopping board, washing up bowl, liquid, scourer, dishcloth, tea towels x4, travel clothes line with pegs, soap powder for clothes in plastic tub, kitchen scissors, bin bags, kitchen roll x6.
 Collapsible water carrier with tap
 TOILETRIES:
 Bath towels x2
 Toilet rolls x12
 Medium towels x2
 Small towels x2
 Large beach towel x1
 Toiletry bag x2
 Shaving foam
 Dis. shavers
 Electric shaver and plug
 Flannels x2
 Soap
 Shampoo
 Deodourant (sp?)
 Toothbrushes x2
 Toothpaste
 Floss
 Tweezers
 Moisturizers
 Sun cream
 TCP/Afterbite
 Insect repellent
 Meds
 Hayfever tablets
 Change for paying for showers/washing machine/dryers (if needed)
 HIKING:
 Rucksacks x2 (these hold 1st aid kit x2, thermal/reflective blanket x2, penknife with tools, flint x1, emergency whistle x2, compass x2, folding cutlery x2, headtorches x2, water bags with tubes x2, tooth cleaners (satchets), survival bivi bag x2, Swiss card x2, pocket guide book on survival, tissues, padlock, hand warmer fuel sticks, small binoculars, spare set of clothes (fleece, wooly hat, trews, socks, gloves), high energy snack foods e.g. Kendal mint cake x2, granola oat, nut and honey bars)
 Walking boots x2 pairs
 Walking poles x2
 Blister plasters
 OS map (usually hire from library for free)
 Have a sat nav to get to places quickly.
 FOOD:
 Tinned toms x4, beans x6, ham x4, spam x2, stew x4, full monty breakfast x4, beans n meatballs x2, pots x6
 soup x4, peas x2
 W*yfarer pouches: beans & sausages x2, beans and meatballs x2, chocolate pudding x2, toffee pudding x2
 Cereals: oats, weet*b*x
 UHT milk x6 cartons
 Eggs 1/2 doz
 Alcohol usually 6 tins beer, wine x2
 Squash x1 bottle
 Pasta x1 bag
 Rice x1 bag
 Oil x1 bottle
 Teabags
 Sugar
 Coffee
 Hot chocolate
 Snacks like crisps, granola bars & chocs
 And anything fresh like pots, salad, butter, that can go in cool box. Always take bacon, sausages for fry up. Condiment packets from (oops) resturants, etc.
 LIGHTING:
 LED Lantern x2 (one wind-up, one with batteries, both with hanging hook)
 Wind up torch/radio
 Small torch
 Head torches x2 (in rucksacks)
 HEATER! (Electric)
 CLOTHING: (Each)
 T-shirts x 4
 Shorts x 4
 Jeans x2
 Undercrackers x7
 Bras x3 (just me!)
 Socks x 4 (plus spare hiking ones in rucksacks)
 Fleece x2
 Anoraks x2
 Fit flops
 Sandals
 Walking trousers x2
 Jumper
 ENTERTAINMENT: (for those rainy days/nights)
 Cards
 Travel Scrabble
 Kindle & charger
 books
 Mobiles & chargers
 MISC:
 Pedometers x2
 Camera
 Travel alarm clock (batteries)
 Sunglasses (prescription reactalite) x2
 Camera
 Tools in car
 1st aid kit in car
 Safety glass hammer and seat belt cutter in car
 Atlas/Road maps
 A bit of cash/cards
 DL for ID
 Bum bag
 DOG:
 Wet food pouches or mini pate x14
 Mixer bics in a bag
 Treats (bribes!)
 Cheap baby wipes if she rolls in smelly stuff
 Cheap nappy bags for poop bags
 Harness
 Extending and short lead
 Metal tether (not for use if we aren't with her, to stop her invading other tents, etc.)
 Ball and stick (her fave)
 Tick tool
 Extra absorbent dog towel
 Shampoo just in case
 Dog bowls!
 She will have her flea and worm treatment before we go.
 I think that's just about it, apart from sweeties for the long drive down...
 Any advice gratefully received, or, I hope this helps someone to mastermind their own camping trip (or think OMG we are not the only one's to overpack!)
 BBB
 Note: I am a member of a car association in case of break downs.My dog: Ears as high ranging in frequency as a bat. Nose as sensitive as a bloodhound. Eyes as accurate as Mr. Magoo's!
 Prepper and saver: novice level. :A #81 Save 12k in 2013! £3.009.00/£12,000
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            westlothianlass wrote: »Doooooo love the pantry sooooo much, do you think it would be the same if i dug a big hole under the garage?
 Well, they offer (even more money) a garden one - 
 http://www.spiralcellars.co.uk/garden-cellar/
 I am currently trying to plan a DIY one under a shed floor, but put off by what to do with the spoil.
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            I've actually got huge cellar space... this house is built on a hill and at the lower end there's 6ft clearance, and a hatch under the hall carpet. I always thought if I was younger I would've made something out of that space...it's clean and dry as a bone. I went down once to carry cable for the RV who was putting Sky in the rooms.0
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            OK, so earlier, I mentioned that not all cans are suitable for making the Spirit Stove shown in my photo.
 Here's the two most common types of 330ml fizzy drink cans. 
 You will notice that the inner lip is wider on the can on the right. It is probably most easily seen, in the photo of the cans with the tops removed.
 It is the wider rimmed cans (on the right in the photos) you need for the Spirit Stoves.0
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            I've bought 4 of those. 
 Based on the advice of FEMA, to allow 1 gallon per day, that gives just under 9 days of water.
 Given our generally temperate (often bloody freezing ) climate, it could even stretch to a fortnight. ) climate, it could even stretch to a fortnight.
 I'm trying to decide, if I should add a couple more, when my local £land gets some more in :think:0
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            BB what are you going to put the dog food in?
 (though I may well have missed that :rotfl:).
 For water, I have an excellent travelling affair - a water bottle with a hinged drinking trough
 This sort of thing but in a more tasteful colour nat. 
 http://www.amazon.co.uk/NEW-ATTACHED-LOCKING-TRAVELLING-CAPACITY/dp/B008L03AZI/ref=sr_1_11?s=pet-supplies&ie=UTF8&qid=1372331963&sr=1-11&keywords=portable+water+bowl+for+dogs0
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