Energy meter reader trespass??

Jamie_Carter

chanz4 wrote: »

or like you to actually learn its not always your way

What is your problem??

You enter peoples property, then you respect their wishes, it's as simple as that. You seem to be power crazed, thinking that you can do what you want, regardless of the customers. Well lets hope either enough people complain about you so that you get sacked.

Terrylw1

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

Not at all. Asking at the point of switch is a better idea...but they don't. They just hide it in very questionable t&c's

This is what I previously stated and you disagreed, hence I didn't know why you preferred a less effective process.

Jamie_Carter

Terrylw1 wrote: »

This is what I previously stated and you disagreed, hence I didn't know why you preferred a less effective process.

What they don't do is actually ask you what access permissions they have for your property. It wouldn't be difficult to set up. And then they could pass this info onto the meter reading company.

Like I said, it isn't difficult.

NeverEnough

Smart meters are not provided or accepted by all the utility companies yet.

Unfortunately.

Yes, it will be a great day when the days of the meter-reading-megalomaniac are over for once and all and smart meters are in every property.

What Jamie is proposing certainly isn't rocket science and could easily be done by the utility companies who intimidate people just because they can. No other good reason. By misusing a law which was intended to protect the consumer, namely checking the "SAFETY" of a gas or electric installation every year or so. Some
(text removed by MSE Forum Team) meter reader is no more able to declare an installation legally SAFE than the man in the moon. That should require a Gas Safe certified engineer or a certified Electrician , not a meter reading clot who is so buzzed by his own sense of importance that he feels its ok to trespass / climb over gates into people's private property or leer through their windows for nefarious purposes, having barged his way onto their property any which way.

chanz4

Its a visual safety inspection, if people want reads goto a supplier that offers smart meters. It would be great to have industry contact details for occs, but it just is not possible due to industry restrictions and data protection not limited to the amount of change of occupiers.

Jamie_Carter

chanz4 wrote: »

Its a visual safety inspection, if people want reads goto a supplier that offers smart meters. It would be great to have industry contact details for occs, but it just is not possible due to industry restrictions and data protection not limited to the amount of change of occupiers.

That is complete rubbish. And if you knew anything about the data protection act you would know that.

As I have said, but will have to spell it out again for you. A supplier could quite easily ask the account holder a number of questions about their preferences regarding access, each time an occupier changes. This isn't difficult, as the occupier would have to contact the supplier to notify them of the change anyway. Passing this information on to the meter readers would not be in breach of the data protection act at all.

Terrylw1

NeverEnough wrote: »

Smart meters are not provided or accepted by all the utility companies yet.

Unfortunately.

Yes, it will be a great day when the days of the meter-reading-megalomaniac are over for once and all and smart meters are in every property.

What Jamie is proposing certainly isn't rocket science and could easily be done by the utility companies who intimidate people just because they can. No other good reason. By misusing a law which was intended to protect the consumer, namely checking the "SAFETY" of a gas or electric installation every year or so. Some meter reader is no more able to declare an installation legally SAFE than the man in the moon. That should require a Gas Safe certified engineer or a certified Electrician , not a meter reading clot who is so buzzed by his own sense of importance that he feels its ok to trespass / climb over gates into people's private property or leer through their windows for nefarious purposes, having barged his way onto their property any which way.

Then you need to raise this to Ofgem.

The licence covers this and states the employee must be trained to make the check.

However, if you read this part of the licence, you will see that you don't have to be a GSR as its so basic.

Then there is the elec check which is about the same but the industry has never been as interested in these as ifs less likely to cause harm.

chanz4

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

That is complete rubbish. And if you knew anything about the data protection act you would know that.

As I have said, but will have to spell it out again for you. A supplier could quite easily ask the account holder a number of questions about their preferences regarding access, each time an occupier changes. This isn't difficult, as the occupier would have to contact the supplier to notify them of the change anyway. Passing this information on to the meter readers would not be in breach of the data protection act at all.

I cant be bothered to argue with you no more, as you just dont understand. Send the question to ofgem and post their reply.

Jamie_Carter

chanz4 wrote: »

I cant be bothered to argue with you no more, as you just dont understand. Send the question to ofgem and post their reply.

There is nothing for you to argue about. So you should have stopped ages ago. It's quite simple, meter readers can't just do what they want on other peoples property...end of story!

I don't have a question to send to ofgem. I understand the law, but you just seem to think that meter readers are above the law. Maybe you need to ask them a question.

Terrylw1

So, 13 pages in...is anyone unhappy with the current conditions going to contact Ofgem's consumer affairs team to raise these problems?