Energy meter reader trespass??

Jamie_Carter

chanz4 wrote: »

Only ever seen this post where people object, or does accurate bills not mean anything?

Do you actually read posts before replying to them?

As I keep saying. The problem is with people like you thinking that you have the right to do whatever you want on other peoples property. Don't you ever consider that if people don't wnt you doing something on their private property, then you don't do it??

Terrylw1

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

Are you just trolling?

It's all down to what is considered 'reasonable'. And it seems that the meter reading companies, or the readers themselves, push the boundries of what is 'reasonable'. That's if they have any concept at all.

It wouldn't be difficult to work it out. All they have to do is look at it from the householders point of view. And if it's something that they wouldn't like someone to do on their property, then they shouldn't do it.

No, you are the one who has consistently avoided points I've made where you've been corrected due to an earlier post that was incorrect. I'm replying in the hoe you might back your earlier points up.

For instance, as said earlier about how readings actually work where you stated I was talking rubbish and when I explained how the process actually works, there is no response.

Then we've got the issue of Ofgem and the ombudsman which you were corrected on and we just had the old cop out about they being owned by the suppliers and that there are no higher authorities.

Then we have the issues of laws & t&c's where it was pointed out that Ofgem's SLC actually form part of the Utilities Act.

Still waiting for an answer to the issue of no boundaries where meter readers go round the back of the house which would be considered acceptable in your earlier statement...but not all householders would agree.

Also we have the fact that everyone is complaining about meter readers but they are not the only agents to visit the meter so perhaps the issue should be visitors in the utility industry?

It seems that when someone attempts to engage in a debate on this thread that they are insulted or accused of trolling.

Terrylw1

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

When people move home, then their records should change with the power company. So it wouldn't be difficult to find out

Because whilst customer names can be passed and so can any special access arrangements, the minute you switch supplier...the issue resets as suppliers don't transfer access data between each other and the new supplier may use a different set of agents.

It would be better to agree it at the point of the switch but they assume they do this via the t&c's.

Terrylw1

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

You shouldn't have to lock your gate to stop people going into your back garden. But if you do, then it doesn't stop dodgy meter readers reaching over to unbolt it, or climbing over the gate.

Next you will probably suggest that people put razor wire on their gate just to make really sure that meter readers get the message.

If you've got a side barrier with a bolt that can be reached, its pretty useless other than keeping the dogs out.

That's why I've got a bolt with a padlock. Not only would it keep out any utility visitors but it would achieve the purpose of the barrier...to keep the less desire ables out.

chanz4

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

Do you actually read posts before replying to them?

As I keep saying. The problem is with people like you thinking that you have the right to do whatever you want on other peoples property. Don't you ever consider that if people don't wnt you doing something on their private property, then you don't do it??

As they say, those that don't want people to see their meter are normaly hiding something...eg stealing other home owners have more better things in their life to worry about.

Jamie_Carter

Terrylw1 wrote: »

No, you are the one who has consistently avoided points I've made where you've been corrected due to an earlier post that was incorrect. I'm replying in the hoe you might back your earlier points up.

For instance, as said earlier about how readings actually work where you stated I was talking rubbish and when I explained how the process actually works, there is no response.

Then we've got the issue of Ofgem and the ombudsman which you were corrected on and we just had the old cop out about they being owned by the suppliers and that there are no higher authorities.

Then we have the issues of laws & t&c's where it was pointed out that Ofgem's SLC actually form part of the Utilities Act.

Still waiting for an answer to the issue of no boundaries where meter readers go round the back of the house which would be considered acceptable in your earlier statement...but not all householders would agree.

Also we have the fact that everyone is complaining about meter readers but they are not the only agents to visit the meter so perhaps the issue should be visitors in the utility industry?

It seems that when someone attempts to engage in a debate on this thread that they are insulted or accused of trolling.

Yes, I have actually ignored many of your posts because they have obviously just been posted to cause an argument. And aren't actually relevant.

The whole issue is the fact that meter readers (or anyone else), should not cross any barriers that are there to prevent intruders, without the permission of the householder. And that for each property, on the first visit, permission should be obtained from the householder about future visits. And notes should be taken.

Is this simple enough for you to understand??? Or are you going to start looking up loads of legislation on line, to try and make yourself look clever again?

Jamie_Carter

Terrylw1 wrote: »

Because whilst customer names can be passed and so can any special access arrangements, the minute you switch supplier...the issue resets as suppliers don't transfer access data between each other and the new supplier may use a different set of agents.

It would be better to agree it at the point of the switch but they assume they do this via the t&c's.

No it wouldn't. You simply contact the customer either before or on the first visit under the new company. And then you ask the householder (as described in my previous post).

This isn't rocket science you know...keep reading it, and you will get it eventually

Jamie_Carter

Terrylw1 wrote: »

If you've got a side barrier with a bolt that can be reached, its pretty useless other than keeping the dogs out.

That's why I've got a bolt with a padlock. Not only would it keep out any utility visitors but it would achieve the purpose of the barrier...to keep the less desire ables out.

It's called a deterrent, not a challenge for meter readers. Just like somebody should be able to leave their door unlocked without people thinking they have the right to just wander in. You wouldn't like people doing it at your home, so don't do it to others.

Jamie_Carter

chanz4 wrote: »

As they say, those that don't want people to see their meter are normaly hiding something...eg stealing other home owners have more better things in their life to worry about.

Don't talk rubbish. It isn't a case of not wanting people to see their meter. It's a case of people wanting meter readers to show a bit of respect.

chanz4

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

Don't talk rubbish. It isn't a case of not wanting people to see their meter. It's a case of people wanting meter readers to show a bit of respect.

No its not, and do you really expect taking into account customers don't always give numbers or update that mra's have time to call? nope