Lennox has been destroyed. Thank you to all who tried to help

Fire_Fox

krlyr wrote: »

And if the results came back indicating he was a Pitbull then it would be the final nail in the coffin - the fact that it cannot be confirmed for definate has left the possible option of the judge changing their minds I suppose. I wouldn't want to trust the accuracy of a DNA test to make that final call.
Though I vaguely recall the question being asked on why DNA testing couldn't be used to prove/disprove dogs being "of type" in the past, I have just looked it up on the dog forum I'm on and apparently the main issue is that fact that the law deems "Any Dog known as a Pitbull type" illegal, rather than specifically "Pitbull Terriers and Pitbull Terrier crosses". There is no breed called "Pitbull type" so how do you use DNA to prove a "type"?

If the DNA results are practically random, what are the chances of them erroneously showing the dog is a pitbull, out of all the possible breeds that could be named? Surely you have more chance of a false negative than a false positive? The authorities don't want to trust the assurances of the owners (who don't want their dog PTS nor to be prosecuted) that the dog is not a pitbull cross, checkmate. Again, I don't see any indication the DNA is or would be used to prove a type, it's only one aspect of the potential 'evidence'. I'd still like to know what details the owners supplied about the b1tch and stud and what evidence the breeder gave.

walwin

demystified wrote: »

Says who? You?

I notice you or someone else is posting this across a number of forums. Apparently the dog warden and others have been threatened with violence which doesn't exactly help their case much.

So lets see.. family with aggressive/violent tendencies, owning a pitbull-type dog... you can see where the authorities are coming from on this one.

I haven't posted across a number of forums and I certainly haven't threatened anyone with violence.

The rest of your post doesn't really warrant a reply

spike7451

walwin wrote: »

Not yet he hasn't

Apologies,I got it off a post the in the meantime has been found to be bogus.

http://www.northcountrygazette.org/2012/07/09/unconfirmed_reprieve/

spike7451

walwin wrote: »

I haven't posted across a number of forums and I certainly haven't threatened anyone with violence.

The rest of your post doesn't really warrant a reply

But that's Belfast,I've been threatened for doing my job as a cable engineer when working at a street cabinet,Violence as the means to an end is a everyday way of life over here.

walwin

Elle7 wrote: »

The legal evidence shows that his owners agreed that he was of type, and signed a document saying that they had broken the relevant law by keeping a pit bull.

This is why the requests for DNA and his siblings have been ignored by the court - his owners have admitted he is a pit bull, and an aggressive one at that.

I did want to attach the relevant documents but they are behind an access point at work, so I'd have to post the log-in details and I don't think they'd be too happy if I did that!

Unfortunately, there is a lot more to this than meets the eye.

We've only got your word for it that you've seen anything and that it isn't all a figment of your imagination.

I know that his owners have never said he is a Pitbull and they'd hardly have him as a companion for their daughter.

hartleysjam

Poor dog, I hope he gets a reprieve

thistledome

signed petition and email sent. Poor thing

madget_2

Elle7 wrote: »

I struggle to understand why they didn't send him bedding or treats when they were able to do so.

Nor, I understand, would they let EGAR take him south to safety in the ROI.

Poor Lennox, caught up in politics and bad decisions, having done no wrong himeself.

zagubov

Fire_Fox wrote: »

Is he an illegal dog or not?

Is changing your religion in Iran illegal or not?

Fire_Fox wrote: »

Pitbulls are not legal here, it's immoral to dump breeds we officially deem to be dangerous on another nation. If you want a better analogy we don't ship convicted wife batterers out to countries where spousal abuse is legal.

If that's a better analogy, I'd hate to see your version of a worse one!

Would you tell the campaigners for Youcef Nadarkhani sentenced to death in Iran for converting to Christianity that he should stay and die or would it be better if he was removed to a country where he and his actions would be legal? Now that's what I call a better analogy.

NewKittenHelp

zagubov wrote: »

Is changing your religion in Iran illegal or not?



If that's a better analogy, I'd hate to see your version of a worse one!

Would you tell the campaigners for Youcef Nadarkhani sentenced to death in Iran for converting to Christianity that he should stay and die or would it be better if he was removed to a country where he and his actions would be legal? Now that's what I call a better analogy.

Animals are not humans.