Left emplyment to go for new job but new job was a nonsense

thesingingchris

ILW wrote: »

What has that got to do with working for a chain of restaurants?

Seems that the private sector has come as a bit of a shock to the system.

It has nothing to do with it...should it?

FYI the majority of colleges are private sector.

hcb42

If they offered you £30K and then didnt come up on the offer, and you have reasonable evidence, I think you would stand a reasonable chance of JSA.

Long hours and the restaurant industry? Well in a quiet week I do about 50-60, so that is par for the course, even if only paid 40 hrs, particularly as a general manager and perhaps your friend should have pointed this out to you if it wasnt immediately obvious when you assessed the business, its payroll and its opening hours etc. I have known chefs for example, clock up a 100 hour week on occasion.

BobQ

yvonne13 wrote: »

Why did you ask a question only to call people trolls???
Perhaps you shouldn't have asked the question if your going to rude to people. Consider yourself blocked.

Not fair in my view. The OP stated he had made a rational decision and found his prospective employer reneged on the contract originally offered. Maybe you are one of the fortunate souls who have never made a mistake and never been conned? Lucky you!

OP asked for advice not santimonious comments like those telling him he had made a mistake, implying he was a benefits scrounger etc.

Mara69

CCFC_80 wrote: »

IThere is a thing called pride & dignity you know.

Doesn't put food on the table or a roof over your head.

duchy

I'm honestly not sure what help or advice you wanted.

No-one in the current job market resigns from a job until they have a written offer from the new company. A standard job offer will include hours/money -if you have that and can show it to the JC when they sanction you it may help your appeal (you're almost certain to get sanctioned first and then have to appeal to try and get it reinstated). As stated you may get some mortgage interest help after 13 weeks-not before. However they may feel you made yourself intentionally unemployed and *could* have stayed until you found another job instead of expecting the tax payer to cover you for your error so don't think JSA will be a given.

Plenty of people see less of their kids because they have to work -and the JC don't need to accept it as a valid reason if you are a NRP. However surely you could come to a reasonable arrangement with your ex about seeing the kids at other times (or not if you're as arrogent with her as you appear to be here )<shrug>.

Principles are all very well but they don't put food on the table or pay the mortgage so I wish you luck in finding a new job.

Dunroamin

thesingingchris wrote: »

It has nothing to do with it...should it?

FYI the majority of colleges are private sector.

Only since April this year.

duchy

BobQ wrote: »

OP asked for advice not santimonious comments like those telling him he had made a mistake, implying he was a benefits scrounger etc.

Well he has made a mistake. He took a job without researching it properly and didn't get the terms and conditions in writing before resigning his previous job. Patting him on the head and telling him that of course the JC will understand and give him money is doing him no favours as they almost certainly won't. Knowing that should help him in how he approaches them rather than steaming in demanding stuff he has doubtful entitlement to.

Advice was fairly clear-Good odds no JC for up to six months-no mortgage help in the forseeable future. Better to know and deal with job search accordingly. With that knowledge the OP may feel he needs to broaden his job search beyond educational posts (especially as it's already July) to ensure he can pay his mortgage until a post he really wants comes up.

Also others considering making a similar move may find the posts useful if it stops them making the same mistakes he has.

duchy

thesingingchris wrote: »

3. It was economically viable as not only would I be paid LESS, and substantially so it would have meant increased child maintenance payments compounding the problem on top of not seeing my children,


Thanks.

This I don't understand-if the job is paying LESS than your previous job....why would child support payments increase ????

PlutoinCapricorn

I am still struggling with the concept of someone who is a lecturer being head hunted for a job in the catering trade.

duchy

Transferrable skills

I've worked in both sectors in the past . Two very different cultures (hours, workload,attitude etc) but I did OK in both so not so "out there" as you'd first think.

Main difference is the culture-in FE you work your set hours and pretty much stay in your niche (with some extra prep work at home but done to your own timetable) F&B you work longer and harder and if something needs doing you just get on with it "it's not my job" doesn't cut it. Pays better at area manager level but is harder work and erratic hours.

The OP seems to have worked in FE for 15 years from his previous posts......Hindsight is a wonderful thing but perhaps a wiser course would have been to have gone to work for a week in one of the locations for a week to see what he was letting himself in for first as it was such a massive change. However what is done is done now.