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cyclist deaths & the law
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Some of the worst cyclists in my area are the school children who I know from discussions with the school have been through several cycling courses and know fine what they should be doing but they completely choose to ignore it and ride like idiots.
I was in a line of cars last Thursday, being held up by a teenager on a bmx weaving around "dancing" on his bike, wearing these huge headphones, he was fully aware of and enjoying the chaos he was causing, his mate was riding on the footpath cheering him on...... :mad:
A lot of drivers will go away from that and take their anger out on an adult cyclist.
To assume that everyone on 2 wheels is an idiot, is like assuming all BMW drivers are tw4ts. The occasional idiotic behaviour re-enforces the stereotypes, but those who behave properly are never noticed or registered.“I may not agree with you, but I will defend to the death your right to make an a** of yourself.”
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Strider590 wrote: »I was in a line of cars last Thursday, being held up by a teenager on a bmx weaving around "dancing" on his bike, wearing these huge headphones, he was fully aware of and enjoying the chaos he was causing, his mate was riding on the footpath cheering him on...... :mad:
A lot of drivers will go away from that and take their anger out on an adult cyclist.
To assume that everyone on 2 wheels is an idiot, is like assuming all BMW drivers are tw4ts. The occasional idiotic behaviour re-enforces the stereotypes, but those who behave properly are never noticed or registered.
No, it's like assuming all DRIVERS are tw4ts. As everyone knows there are idiots in the world. Some use motor vehicles, some use bikes, some walk. It doesn't stop them being idiots, but their current mode of transport rarely CAUSES them to be idiots.
If people chill out, acknowledge the human and give EVERYONE a bit more space then the roads will be a happier, safer and easier place to be.It's only numbers.0 -
Published on Monday 17 September 2012 08:47 The family of Timothy Osborn - the cyclist killed in a hit and run in Spalding on Friday night - have opened their heart about him and urged the driver responsible to come forward.
IT READS: Timothy James Osborn (27) is our eldest child of 4. He wasn’t the most academic person but he had many better qualities and we were extremely proud of him.
Tim worked at Morrisons all his working life mostly in the car park pushing trolleys around and helping those who needed it to load their shopping into their cars. He loved his job and especially being outside in all weathers.
Tim didn’t want much, he was a happy child, He always said as long as I have enough money to pay my rent, update my computer and my push bike. He loved to surprise us all with small thoughtful gestures and has left all of us with a very large hole in our lives.
Tim was the light n soul of our family – always around with his fun and laughter. His family was extremely important to him and at family reunions, and parties or when we went on holidays he was the life n soul having fun and enjoying himself.
Since Tim’s death on Friday Night, we have had so many messages of support we are finding it hard to keep up with them all. We are finding out just how special our Timothy was to other people helping them through hard times and being a shoulder to cry on.
To the driver of the vehicle or their families and friends, we would like you to come forward so we can understand how this happened. We would also appeal to anybody else who has information however small to contact the police. Imagine how you would feel finding your child dying in a ditch at the side of the road not 5 mins away from home.
PLEASE PLEASE come forward and hopefully you will never have to know just how hurt and destroyed we are.
I would like to say a huge thank you to the Lincs Police, Ambulance & Fire brigade for all their hard work and dedication.
We are just a normal family, who were like many families just living our own lives the best we could when this happened.
Tim I am so sorry we couldn’t be there to stop this happening we love you forever and you will always be in our hearts.
R.I.P – TO A VERY SPECIAL SON
Mum, Dad, Emma, Zoe & Michael
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someone somewhere knows who did this...
please helpjust in case you need to know:
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If you look it actually says chariotway but modern scholars now translate this as motorway :rotfl:Really? Are you sure?
I'm just a tad sceptical that the Great Charter of 1215 had a specific exemption for motorways.
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fannyadams wrote: »Published on Monday 17 September 2012 08:47 The family of Timothy Osborn - the cyclist killed in a hit and run in Spalding on Friday night - have opened their heart about him and urged the driver responsible to come forward.
IT READS: Timothy James Osborn (27) is our eldest child of 4. He wasn’t the most academic person but he had many better qualities and we were extremely proud of him.
Tim worked at Morrisons all his working life mostly in the car park pushing trolleys around and helping those who needed it to load their shopping into their cars. He loved his job and especially being outside in all weathers.
Tim didn’t want much, he was a happy child, He always said as long as I have enough money to pay my rent, update my computer and my push bike. He loved to surprise us all with small thoughtful gestures and has left all of us with a very large hole in our lives.
Tim was the light n soul of our family – always around with his fun and laughter. His family was extremely important to him and at family reunions, and parties or when we went on holidays he was the life n soul having fun and enjoying himself.
Since Tim’s death on Friday Night, we have had so many messages of support we are finding it hard to keep up with them all. We are finding out just how special our Timothy was to other people helping them through hard times and being a shoulder to cry on.
To the driver of the vehicle or their families and friends, we would like you to come forward so we can understand how this happened. We would also appeal to anybody else who has information however small to contact the police. Imagine how you would feel finding your child dying in a ditch at the side of the road not 5 mins away from home.
PLEASE PLEASE come forward and hopefully you will never have to know just how hurt and destroyed we are.
I would like to say a huge thank you to the Lincs Police, Ambulance & Fire brigade for all their hard work and dedication.
We are just a normal family, who were like many families just living our own lives the best we could when this happened.
Tim I am so sorry we couldn’t be there to stop this happening we love you forever and you will always be in our hearts.
R.I.P – TO A VERY SPECIAL SON
Mum, Dad, Emma, Zoe & Michael
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someone somewhere knows who did this...
please help
Hit and left to die in a ditch, I read this earlier on the BBC news website and it makes my blood boil!! :mad:“I may not agree with you, but I will defend to the death your right to make an a** of yourself.”
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Juries will put themselves in the position of the offending driver in cases such as this and think, "there but for the grace of god". Their judgement will be hugely and incorrectly influenced by this thinking.
I believe the verdict on the death of the two Townend brothers in your OP link was a perverse verdict based on this type of thinking. It's a verdict that has baffled me since the day it was announced.Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler.0 -
While I don't think there was any intent in this one, he shouldn't have got off scott free for his negligence.0
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