Is it fair to put someone in an exam with as much as 10 % off before they start?

Quasar

This is DT revisited, down to the last detail.

Phil begins a thread on a general topic and then it soon develops in a tale of woe-is-me because the world and his dog don't give him a life on a platter.

Lusignan and Davidmoore are going through the same motions diso many of us did last July/August and later. I was one of those eager to help and advise and suggest, as were many others who now only feel contempt for such a whinging and lazy young man.

Disability? Stephen Hawking was already diagnosed as having motor-neurone disease when he was at Uni. Now he's in a wheelchair, totally paralysed and has to speak through an electronic device. Yet he is Lucasian Professor of Mathematics at Cambridge, the very same chair that was occupied by Isaac Newton 300 or so years ago. This man has been an inspiration to many people disabled or otherwise, and whinging about access doors and dyslexia while doing nothing about it, seems almost blasphemous in comparison.

studentphil

Q, it is a bit unfair to have a go at me because I am not as good as Stephen Hawking. I have admited I did the wrong degree and I have had unhappiness due to that. Stephen Hawking is probably one in a Billion in brain quality so you can not have a go at me just because I am not as good as him. And what is to say that in private he is not very annoyed and upset over his disability?

brazilianwax

studentphil wrote: »

Q, it is a bit unfair to have a go at me because I am not as good as Stephen Hawking. I have admited I did the wrong degree and I have had unhappiness due to that. Stephen Hawking is probably one in a Billion in brain quality so you can not have a go at me just because I am not as good as him. And what is to say that in private he is not very annoyed and upset over his disability?

Is that like you then?

studentphil

brazilianwax wrote: »

Is that like you then?

I suppose in someways I am. But Q's argument is strange because a professor does not seem unhappy about his condition that no other disabled person can feel unhappy about their own. Because he is a Super Brain who did outstandingly well does not limit the struggle that many disabled people have in going to university.

Quasar

studentphil wrote: »

Q, it is a bit unfair to have a go at me because I am not as good as Stephen Hawking. I have admited I did the wrong degree and I have had unhappiness due to that. Stephen Hawking is probably one in a Billion in brain quality so you can not have a go at me just because I am not as good as him. And what is to say that in private he is not very annoyed and upset over his disability?

Actually, only 2 or 3 people in the world are as good as Stephen Hawking. Phil WHY DON'T YOU READ POSTS PROPERLY? Blimey, I know you cannot understand oblique references, but please! I brought Hawking as an example of someone who had to overcome far more than you have, and did it without endless whinging.

Stopping all this whinging and taking responsibility for your own life, doesn't take what it took Hawking to get where he is, I promise you.

Is this post too complicated to understand phil? Then read it again please, because I shall NOT elaborate on it.

brazilianwax

studentphil wrote: »

I suppose in someways I am. But Q's argument is strange because a professor does not seem unhappy about his condition that no other disabled person can feel unhappy about their own. Because he is a Super Brain who did outstandingly well does not limit the struggle that many disabled people have in going to university.

I was trying out a bit of irony. If Hawking was angry or upset in private then the fact that he has made so much of himself is an even greater achievement.

You are upset publically, yet in terms of actually doing anything it's all private.

Can you see what I mean??

And I agree with Q. It is unbelievably frustrating that you don't try and work out what people mean when they take time to converse with you.

studentphil

Quasar wrote: »

Actually, only 2 or 3 people in the world are as good as Stephen Hawking. Phil WHY DON'T YOU READ POSTS PROPERLY? Blimey, I know you cannot understand oblique references, but please! I brought Hawking as an example of someone who had to overcome far more than you have, and did it without endless whinging.

Stopping all this whinging and taking responsibility for your own life, doesn't take what it took Hawking to get where he is, I promise you.

Is this post too complicated to understand phil? Then read it again please, because I shall NOT elaborate on it.

Okay, Q, but is he a personal friend of yours, do you know for sure that he is not deeply angry and upset at what has happened to him? He might feel sad and unhappy inside too you know just like a lot of more ordinary disabled people do.

In Life I try to keep unbeat and I do keep going but I know I do let my negative side come out too much here.

studentphil

brazilianwax wrote: »

I was trying out a bit of irony. If Hawking was angry or upset in private then the fact that he has made so much of himself is an even greater achievement.

You are upset publically, yet in terms of actually doing anything it's all private.

Can you see what I mean??

And I agree with Q. It is unbelievably frustrating that you don't try and work out what people mean when they take time to converse with you.

I can see what you mean, I class this as being upset in semi private as none of you know me personally. I am sorry I misunderstood Q a bit!

sarahlouise210

time and time and time again we have said it ....and still you do not get it ..... you are seriously OBSESSED with disability. OK, you have a disability...so do many others and we all have to deal with it the best way we can. You seem to THRIVE on going over and over the same old thing...poor poor me .... To be totally honest from posts you have made in the past about your abilities (although contradictory) I think your CP is not as bad as you make out - you USE it as an excuse for everything that does not go just right in your life. Life is what YOU make of it - not what someone else hands you on a plate - if you want the marks..put the work in. If you want help ...ask for it. If you want a better life and more independance...go and get it.

studentphil

I have a great pain of being inadequate inside of me and I have had it all my life since I knew I was different to most other people in how my body works. It has just so turned out that university has compounded my feeling of being inadequate as I have found no success there.

I do not expect you to understand that but there you go.