work not letting me drop a shift so i can look after new baby

Dunroamin

missdisney666 wrote: »

We have Downloaded flexible working forms but been told they can refuse it and nobody will swap with me they are horrible bunch of people and they dont like to work saturday nights and no my partner cant change his nights cos dont you think if he was allowed to change his shifts then i would be allowed aswell and if he was allowed then i wouldnt need to ask advice cos it would be sorted already. All my friends say they should accomodate me not refuse me not sure what to think or do anymore.

Well, for a start, I'd drop that tone to people who are trying to help you. If you're speaking to people at work like that I can see why you're not getting any co-operation!

missdisney666

Like what? I just said dont you think if my bf could change his shifts or if i could i would need the advice didnt mean to have a 'tone' you cant tell how you say things over the net and you have no idea about these people its got nothing to do with me at all they are horrible and they judge and slag people off and theres a lot of jealous people there too because i have a happy family a boyfriend and im fairly pretty its a couple of women thats all i get on with 90% of the workers, they just wont swap with me just cos of the fact they dont like to work a saturday

kingfisherblue

OP, you have the right to request flexible working, but your employer has the right to refuse it. From what you ahve posted, others will be unwilling to change their shifts to accommodate you, so your employer is not being unreasonable to expect you back in the shifts that you were working before having your baby. They only have top offer you your original job back - they do not have to accommodate a reduction in hours or a change of shift.

Childcare is not the employer's problem. Although you have family who are working the next day, someone might have your child overnight if you collect the baby on your way home from your shift, enabling them to get to work on time. That way, you and your boyfriend can take it in turns to sleep on the Sunday.

And yes, your tone was a bit sharp in post 11. People are trying to help, maybe you should thank them rather than have a go at them.

MSE says be especially nice to newbies, but equally, newbies should be nice to longer term posters.

real1314

does your partner work at the same place?

if he does, have you asked if you can always be rostered on different shifts so one of you is always available?

have you actually put the request in writing?

it's fairly inevitable that people won't swap for a saturday; have you tried offerring to cover a different saturday that someone else might want covering, giving you time to sort something out?

:cool:

CornishWildFlower

missdisney666 wrote: »

Like what? I just said dont you think if my bf could change his shifts or if i could i would need the advice didnt mean to have a 'tone' you cant tell how you say things over the net and you have no idea about these people its got nothing to do with me at all they are horrible and they judge and slag people off and theres a lot of jealous people there too because i have a happy family a boyfriend and im fairly pretty its a couple of women thats all i get on with 90% of the workers, they just wont swap with me just cos of the fact they dont like to work a saturday

Oh please! Look, as far as I'm aware, if you really have no one to look after the baby on this particular night you're within your rights to call and say you can't make it due to having to take care of a dependent. Everyone is allowed 'reasonable' time off for such an occurrence and (unless you do it regularly/repeatedly) there's not a lot your employer can do within the law, you'll just have to live with losing a nights pay.

missdisney666

CornishWildFlower wrote: »

Oh please! Look, as far as I'm aware, if you really have no one to look after the baby on this particular night you're within your rights to call and say you can't make it due to having to take care of a dependent. Everyone is allowed 'reasonable' time off for such an occurrence and (unless you do it regularly/repeatedly) there's not a lot your employer can do within the law, you'll just have to live with losing a nights pay.

Thanks cornish wild flower ive been told im within my rights and people have told me they are ment to be accomodating to new families and help with situations like this i have a flexible working form im going to give to them someone said they can refuse it well they can all they like i basically wont be working that night. Thanks to those who have given me good advice.

CornishWildFlower

missdisney666 wrote: »

Thanks cornish wild flower ive been told im within my rights and people have told me they are ment to be accomodating to new families and help with situations like this i have a flexible working form im going to give to them someone said they can refuse it well they can all they like i basically wont be working that night. Thanks to those who have given me good advice.

They don't have to be accommodating, they are obliged to look to see if the business would not suffer as a result of you changing shifts. Basically, you need to sell it to them as a good thing for them, as well as you. If this isn't the case then they're not being unfair, simply looking at it from a commercial, rather than a personal, point of view.

missdisney666

CornishWildFlower wrote: »

They don't have to be accommodating, they are obliged to look to see if the business would not suffer as a result of you changing shifts. Basically, you need to sell it to them as a good thing for them, as well as you. If this isn't the case then they're not being unfair, simply looking at it from a commercial, rather than a personal, point of view.

Thanks, im going to see them about it and see what they can do, i also rang citizens advice this morning they told me about the flexible working form all i can do is fill it in and basicallysay this is how it is, they may be able to sort it for me they may not, if they dont then i will just find a job where it suits me and can always look after my son thanks for your advice

missdisney666

Cant believe people are saying thanks to the rude user who said my lifes tragic and that i made up a fake account, and you have a go at ME for being rude??

CornishWildFlower

I'm in a fairly similar situation to you. I work nights and my husband works for the same company, we have two children and another on the way.

It's not easy, it never is, you just get used to juggling..............and not seeing much of each other! Be courteous and reasonable when dealing with them, and try to see it from their point of view, it'll help you find a way to persuade them. If you can't sell it to them, at least ensure they'll provide you with a decent reference.