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OP every post you have made on this thread is to refer to other drivers as ignorant. I would have hoped that having read the other respondents you would have had time to re-evaluate your stance on this issue.
Yes sure barging is not the best way to join a motorway but it is up to everyone to aware and act with some common sense. The last thing you want is stationary traffic on a slip road, imagine joining a motorway from a standstill.
Exactly. Also not forgetting the speed limit on many dual carriageways is also 70mph.Truth always poses doubts & questions. Only lies are 100% believable, because they don't need to justify reality. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon, The Labyrinth of the Spirits0 -
Theses drivers who refuse to move over or slow down for cars on the slip road are no different to drivers who sit and hog the middle lane causing problems for everyone around them . The difference is doing that to cars on the slip road is highly dangerous and wreckless endangering everyone around them .0
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I tend to take a cautious route.
Motorway driving is all about reading the road around you. Junctions are one of the areas where conflict occurs. Therefore take precautions, move over to give them room. If that is not possible ease off the accelerator a little to give them room.
You should never stop on the slip road unless the flow on the motorway has stopped, or you have broken down.
The ones that annoy me are the BMW's etc that think they have the right to go straight from the slip road to the outside lane within the first 100yds. GRR
I have thought for along time that we should have compulsory lessons on motorway driving after passing a driving test.0 -
If you're driving on the left lane wich the slip road connects to then you're the idiot that's going to cause a lot of accidents. If there is a joining road connecting to the motorway, and it does not have a lane of it's own. You need to move onto the lane on the right..
There's a huge blind spot when you are joining the motorway through a sliproad, your rear view mirror and your wing mirror does not allow you to see the traffic on the motorway because you're coming in at an angle. Therefore the car joining you in from the slip road CANNOT see you. This is why you have roadsigns well in advance telling you about a sliproad ahead. Why do you think they're telling you? Perhaps it's there to warn you to take preventive action such as be aware of possible cars joing and PREFERABLY move onto the lane on the right if you're in the left lane so that the sliproad vehicles can joine safely.0 -
aqueoushumour01 wrote: »waiting on a slip road to a major road - is OP serious (assuming of course things aren't congested where this may be necessary when major road is also clogged up)? How would it even be possible to judge whether there is enough time to go when those on the road are doing 60+ whilst you're moving from a standstill - surprised no one on the major road has gone into the back of you tbh. I wouldn't be too happy if I had to stop on a slip road if you were the car in front - you would be putting my life in danger frankly when i then had to get onto the road.
Safest way is to match speeds and blend, which is of course part of the highway code.
The above sign is what one will see, or similar, when on a slip road.
Note the broken white lines leading to the major road of the smaller arrow, bottom right.
That is not an invitation to just cross it regardless, it is there for a reason. One should approach those lines with caution and even wait if need be, depending on the flow of the traffic on the major road.
Of course it would be better to be able to join the major road at speed, however, that is not always possible and it is why those broken white lines are there in the first place.
Take this scenario, you are on a roundabout that leads to a very short slip road behind a heavy loaded HGV and that slip road goes uphill, joining a motorway.
That HGV would not have had time to build up any other speed than a crawl considering they have just left a roundabout and onto a short slip road going uphill.
That means you are at a crawl too, and the car behind, and the next etc etc.
You have no choice but to join that motorway at a crawl, almost at a standstill.
That is what happens at slip roads.
How is that HGV meant to match the 60+ mph you suggest they should do to blend into the traffic?0 -
yeas you're quite right.. I should have thought about that. On google images it was only showing the sign for the slip road enteree.
Although slip road to motorways tend to have their own dedicated lanes, main road to dual carriageway slip roads tend to have 50:50 of own lane/merged lane.
In pictures it looks as though it's a give way line. But in practice it's no the case. The slip road will slowly connect to the carriageway over the distance of 100m or so. It's not a give way sign. It's very very dangerous to join a dual carriageway for a stopped position. You may be able to get away if you have a really fast turbocharged car, but if you have a 1.2, 1.4 or HGV you're going to pick up speed extremely slowly. Leading to accidents.
The safest way is for the people already on the dual carriageway or motorway to move aside, if possible or need be, so the slip road enterees can safe do so. As already stated slip road enterees cannot see the people behind who are already on the motorway/carriageway with their mirros because of the angle.0 -
Total bull!
What you are saying is a green light to pig ignorant people think they are the most important on the planet.
people on the first lane should move over to the 2nd lane when needed thats what the three lanes are for0 -
so what are you saying? you saying you should slow down on a slip road and then speed up to get on the m way?
people on the first lane should move over to the 2nd lane when needed thats what the three lanes are forPerhaps the OP has a drag racer.
Truth always poses doubts & questions. Only lies are 100% believable, because they don't need to justify reality. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon, The Labyrinth of the Spirits0 -
so what are you saying? you saying you should slow down on a slip road and then speed up to get on the m way?
people on the first lane should move over to the 2nd lane when needed thats what the three lanes are for
But we all know not everybody does this, there is always some idiot oblivious to everything whilst driving and Lord knows how they got past the test.
That same idiot who stays in lane 1, despite an imminent slip road ahead, can force you to slow down, even stop, on the slip road.
It is not the fault of the slip road driver, but it happens, I drive a lot and see this on a daily basis.
Unless a cop had seen the idiot and books them for 'without due care' the fact remains that the idiot has priority otherwise there would be an accident.
You cannot dictate what the drivers on a major road do whilst emerging from a slip road, however annoying it is.
Put it this way, see who would be blamed for a collision in this scenario, the slip road driver or the car already on the major road?
The answer is simple, 'Do not join a major road from a slip road unless it is safe to do so.'
That sometimes may involve waiting. It is what you would do in very heavy, congested traffic anyway.
This is basic stuff.0 -
A problem on motorway entry slip roads is those who enter the motorway doing +80mph and then undertake the considerate drivers who moved into lane 2.
They act as if being seen in lane 1 and doing "only" 60mph is a mortal sin.
Though given that motorway driving isn't part of the driving test it's hardly a surprise there is so much confusion on the subject.0
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