What am I supposed to do with this degree thing? Paper hat?

studentphil

I will say honestly that a 2:2 at my place requires alot of effort and hard work and they are not just handed out for going to class.

Ianna

slinks wrote: »

not that i feel i need to have to convince u, but mine was a typo

the other poster's mistake was COMPLETELY wrong so quite likely to be a spelling mistake

:rolleyes:

Could you stop trying to score cheap points please? The OP has already asked for no more aggression, I've asked for no more aggression - could you please show some consideration when asked twice? Again, if you really want to continue this then just pm me.

lellie

studentphil wrote: »

I have seen no where that has 68% 2;1 or higher results.

Most places from what I have seen get about 10% 1sts, 35% 2:1, 35% 2:2, 10 % thirds, 10% pass or no grading due to illness

I do History at the University of Manchester - granted it's not the best subject but it's at a good uni and is a respected degree.

On my course about 20% get firsts, 50% get 2.1s, 20% get 2.2s and 10% thirds, passes and no gradings..

melancholly

back to the OP (there have been so many threads in the last year on the relative merits of 2:2s that I just can't face it any more!) - it's a real shame that your university careers service is so bad. is your MA at the same place because if not, you could try and go back to your undergrad uni as their careers service should be able to help you.

it sounds like your main problem is not really knowing what you want to do - it means that you will struggle to come across as genuine in any interview/covering letter and that will shoot you in the foot.

have a trip to some of the huge careers fairs and just talk to people about different careers. there are plenty at different universities that have different objectives (e.g. city firms, charity sector, media etc) so just go and see what's out there.

another major point is that you are very unlikely to get your dream job straight after university - you'll have to start at the bottom and work up in whatever you choose (unless you are sickeningly luck that is!!).

oh - and also have a look on the careers websites for some of the major red brick universities. sometimes you need a password to get in, but often you can find lots of useful information on them.

if it takes a few years of waitressing to work out what you want to do, sobeit.... i would argue that it's better to have a clear idea first rather than taking a path and getting trapped in it and only realising at 35 that it's not actually what you want, but you can't face changing to do something else as you'd need to take a major paycut and your lifestyle would change dramatically (not always the case i know - but you get the point!).

the 2:2 isn't going to help you - that's a given - whether it should or it shouldn't be seen in a negative light is irrelevant as it will happen to a greater or lesser degree at different companies. but that doesn't mean that plenty of places won't take you if you write a great application and shine in the interview.

studentphil

Knowing what you want to do is key!!

Forget the 2:2 as it is not a barrier to the vast majority of things in life.

ames123_2

Yes I agree I think knowing what to do is key too! I'm in my second year doing History and and I have no idea what I want to do. Will be quite hard if looking at jobs next year if I don't know! Will prob have to try a few things out. Just keeping applying and applying and hopefully something you want to do will come up, good luck!

chezza262

Lady Fuschia,
I'm in the second year of my degree at the mo and have no idea what to do when i'm finished. I've decided to use every resource I can including the careers office, websites and the grad fairs coming up in June. To be honest I probably still wont have a clue then! You're not alone in being confused about what to do next but even if you think you have an idea of some jobs you'd like, try to shadow someone to see what the job is really like.

With regard to getting a 2:2 - I think that any degree is good no matter what the grade because its bloody hard work and at the end of the day you can only do your best! No-one on here or anywhere else has the right to make you feel inferior and can only do that anyway if you actually let them!

Good luck x

slinks

Ianna wrote: »

Could you stop trying to score cheap points please? The OP has already asked for no more aggression, I've asked for no more aggression - could you please show some consideration when asked twice? Again, if you really want to continue this then just pm me.

don't tell me what i can and can't write on mse thanks

why would i want to score cheap points against you? i don't even know you :rolleyes:

i wasn't being aggressive. i was giving an alernative opinion to yours. freedom of mse speech 'n' all that :rolleyes:

i have no wish whatsoever to pm you, i have no wish to score points, i am not being aggressive - i am giving my view just like you are allowed to :rolleyes:

jesus...

now i am asking you to stop telling me what to do thanks very much - and also, please look up the definition of aggression as none of my posts on here have been remotely aggressive - what with your fantabulous top uni degree and all, you should know the definition already though, shouldn't you???

si1503

nic_santorini wrote: »

Sorry to say this, but I truly believe that it is where the degree comes from and quite frankly a 2:2 means between 50-59% - thats a lot of partying in my eyes. Too many so poly's and then colleges have now got university status and are quite frankly handing them out on a platter. To have a degree years ago was special - until the standard was lowered and then you had to get an MA or MSc to stand out in the crowd and now quite frankly it is a PhD but what does a Doctorate in writing books get you - if you don't want to be an author. People should really think about their life plans before embarking on years of fun, debt and then misery of not 'fulfilling' their lives. Sorry to be harsh - but when you can have degrees in watching tv and rubbish like that - it is no wonder there are many people without 'good jobs'. And yes, I have 3 degrees myself and a good job that is related to them - I am happy but knew what I wanted before embarking on a Masters. After all, who would go out and randomly spend £10,000 on a lucky dip bag - not really a money saving expert tip.

You say that to stand out an MA ro MSc is needed. I am not disagreeing with you, but there are many other ways to stand out far better when applying for jobs.

As mentioned above, academic achievements are only one factor from a number of key factors when applying for jobs. There will always be 1000s of young people out there with better academic achievements than you, the non-academic achievements are the things that really make you stand out when it comes to securing a good job.

You also need to be extremely motivated and clear about what you want to go into. The most successful people are not necessarily the smartest people academically, but the ones with the biggest appitite for success. If you want something bad enough you'll get it, where theres a will.....

TeaBoy_2

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