would you grass up this man?

kev-1977

Update: 14/06/2012.

The parking company hasn't responded.
This morning I received a PCN (UKPC)

Thanks to the several messages from users explaining PCN's are non enforceable. I shall be simply ignoring it.

I know it's easy to simply ignore the invoices. But the parking company have only been here 5 minutes. If I kick off good and proper. The management company will think, they've only just got here and already they're hacking people off.
Hopefully, if we complain enough. The management company will tell the parking company to change their ways or get out.
I figured that would hit the parking firm more than ignoring a £60 invoice.

What do you think?

I have emailed both the freeholders and the parking company the following: I haven't included my car details so they have no idea which car it belongs to.

I am very disappointed in your company's response to this matter.


This morning, I discovered a Parking Charge Notice was stuck to my windscreen.


Lastnight after finishing work late. I drove home to discover absolutely no parking spaces were available.
Rather than parking in the streets (which is not why leaseholders pay groundrent / maintenance) I had to improvise and park in a non allocated space.
This is due to several cars occupied (again) by the car dealer.


I had emailed your company to explain a problem, the cause of the problem and requesting help to resolve this matter. I certainly don't expect to arrive home to find a PCN with my email unanswered.


I will not be paying this PCN. Should you wish to pursue this ridiculous matter. I will be complaining in the strongest possible terms.



I look forward to your swift reply containing the following:


1) Apologising for the delayed response.
2) Requesting my car details so the charge will be reversed.
3) A response to my earlier email.

ManxRed

This might be a good one to warn the PPC that you know their invoices are legally unenforceable, and that any future correspondence from them, other than a cancellation of the ticket, will be considered harassment, and that you will consider bringing a claim against them AND The management company (who you hold jointly and severally liable for the actions of their agent) in line with the Protection from Harassment Act.

ankspon

You can also contact the council even though it is private land,i had to once and they sorted it out.

kev-1977

Thanks Ankspon
I have phoned my local council's planning permission area this morning.
After summarising the problem. They assured me this is a planning permission area they can get involved with.

I have forwarded all the emails to them.
Hopefully, they can kick some !!! and we'll soon have a nice empty carpark.

kev-1977

update 18/062012 (for those still reading)

no reply from planning permission area.
no reply from parking company.
no reply from management company.
2nd ticket on car.

Just out of interest. Is there number of tickets they can issue before they try a different tact?
Or would they treat it the same, whether you've had 1 ticket issued or a 100 by the same company.

LincolnshireYokel

kev-1977 wrote: »

update 18/062012 (for those still reading)

no reply from planning permission area.
no reply from parking company.
no reply from management company.
2nd ticket on car.

Just out of interest. Is there number of tickets they can issue before they try a different tact?
Or would they treat it the same, whether you've had 1 ticket issued or a 100 by the same company.

Oh yes, rest assured, were still reading.

1. Local Government may well be slow in responding,
2. I wouldn't expect the PPc to respond
3. Maybe a phone call to the Housing Manager of the Management Company ? Or a recorded delivery letter?

taffy056

Well they could try clamping if there signs there, but that is being outlawed on private land in October, so their only course of action is the small claims. It won't go there though as there is no loss to the parking company or landowner. All you'd have to show is proof of address of the registered keeper that will be you in the complex for it to be thrown out. Just carry on ignoring.

kev-1977

After reading their signs (and googling the PPC)

They don't appear to get involved with any clamping/towing.

Looks like if it's not paid. They contact the DVLA for a name/address then bombard you with letters from the company, it's debt collectors and their acting solicitors.

ManxRed

In which case you are perfectly safe. There's all manner of issues whereby you could get a court claim laughed out of court. Odds are they know this so won't try.

HO87

Don't mess about any further with the PPC or the management company who are simply avoiding dealing with the problem. Draft a letter before action and threaten them both with proceedings for harassment. As a tenant you are entitled to peaceful enjoyment of what you pay your rent for. Specifically, you are entitled to park your car and not be penalised because of the actions of others. Don't waste any more time emailing the council, the management company or anybody else. Write your letter, give them 14 days to withdraw the tickets, not to issue any further and pay you £50 for your inconvenience. If the PPC or the management company do not pay up issue proceedings against both of them.

You should also specifically notify UKPC that if they exercise their rights under the provisions of the Reg. 27(1) Road Vehicles (Registration & Licensing) Regulations 2002 to obtain details of the registered keeper of your vehicle from the DVLA then you intend to seek evidence that they have sufficient interest in the land on which they purport to enforce parking regulations to be able to comply with the "reasonable cause" test set out in that regulation. To this end you will be requiring discovery of their contract with the management company. If they have insufficient interest then the obtaining of information will be unlawful and will almost certainly breach the Data Protection Act.

Don't mess around with these people.