would you grass up this man?

kev-1977

Good evening, fellow forum people.
I need your advice.

Would you grass this man up to the freeholders or parking company?

I live in a block of flats which has a private carpark and permits are needed to park there.

Within the last month. The 20 spaces I am allowed to park in are now half occupied by a car dealer.

His business is registered at the flat where this man lives and has setup his car lot in the carpark.

At least 4-5 evenings a week. I cannot park my car in the correct bay because this dealer has parked his cars there. These cars have no permit nor tax disc (nice!)

Soon, a new private parking company will be patrolling the area. I know what's going to happen. I will be ticketed for parking in the wrong spot because there is nowhere to park. Then I shall be ignoring them because they're unenforceable.

Because it's private land and not a public street. I'm not sure legally what would happen. Other than sticking notes on his windscreen or ordering pizza to his address (lol) I'm not sure what else to do.

Thanks for reading this, hope you're all having a good friday night.

LincolnshireYokel

I think complaining to the landowner is the plan here. Look in your lease, what does it say about how many cars you can park, and the rules on running a business from there?

I also think a compliant to the police might stir things up as well, if they have no tax disc and hes taking them on a public highway.

Another line of attack is the fact if his business really is registered to the flat, then he must be paying business rates. And what about planning permission to change the use of the private land to a business car park ? If the landowner gets hit for business rate for the car park he might not look too kindly on the cars.

mikey72

Realistically, what can be done? He'll ignore any ticket as they're unenforcable. It's private land, the police can't touch him. He'll have trader insurance, so he can drive without tax. You need to prove he is actually trading from home, rather than merely storing there, and even then it'll take years to enforce anything. What can the landowner do, even if he is limited to one car? Maybe employ a private company to put on unenforacable tickets, or clamps the owner can cut off?

LincolnshireYokel

mikey72 wrote: »

Realistically, what can be done? He'll ignore any ticket as they're unenforcable. It's private land, the police can't touch him. He'll have trader insurance, so he can drive without tax. You need to prove he is actually trading from home, rather than merely storing there, and even then it'll take years to enforce anything. What can the landowner do, even if he is limited to one car? Maybe employ a private company to put on unenforacable tickets, or clamps the owner can cut off?

technically he could be in breach of his lease, thats why OP needs to read HIS lease to look for ways in.

mikey72

LincolnshireYokel wrote: »

technically he could be in breach of his lease, thats why OP needs to read HIS lease to look for ways in.

He could be. But all he is doing is parking as far as can be proved. He probably wouldn't own up to a business.

benham3160

He needs trade plates to drive the cars on the road, (unless they have a valid disc in the window) along with insurance.

If he is driving them with trade plates they can only be used to demonstrate the vehicle to one person (no other passengers), not used outside of business hours, vehicle must be recorded as 'in trade' and about 50 other points must be addressed.

Insurance doesn't cover lack of tax, and plates don't confirm insurance.

Regards,
Andy

Mallotum_X

Perhaps the local chavs may start letting his tyres down... might make him change his mind

give_them_FA

Hey yes, what you need are some naughty kids. Much more effective than Parking Eye in dissuading inconsiderate parkers!

HardWorker2010_2

I understand some naughty chavs like to steal windscreen wipers, let tyres down, AND apply a thin smear of dog dirty under the drivers door handle......

mikey72

give_them_FA wrote: »

Hey yes, what you need are some naughty kids. Much more effective than Parking Eye in dissuading inconsiderate parkers!

That escalates though. I always find they come back again, and get every other car.

LincolnshireYokel

The kids where i live put small pieces of matchstick inside the tyre valve caps, so it slowly lets the tyres down, but its a !!!!!! to detect, because the tyre shows no leaks when checked.