Police Office Abusing his power and position

Flyboy152

I suppose if one is involved in a production of Graham Greene's Brighton Rock, it be considered to be held and used in a professional capacity.

ic31420

DVardysShadow wrote: »

Not all acquisitions are by buying ....

That is quite often covered in legislation, with the words give, gift, exchange, transferr ownership etc being added somewhere. Not sure about this case though!

Maybe they was them shooting knives!


Either way the who thread/OPs posts have a strange ring about them!

adouglasmhor wrote: »

They were originaly invented for net fishermen so that they ould cut nets and lines with one hand if the other was trapped or holding onto a rail or another line. Better one handed openers are available now.

Live and learn!

F_T_Buyer

I used to have a very sharp pen-knife as I did lots of sea going sports - it was kept with my [mini] tool box in my car, and taken on my person when at sea. However I decided to get rid as I've never actually needed it - thinking what trouble I would be in if I were stopped by the police.

This is going a bit off topic, back to the OP, did you complain?

Andy_L

F_T_Buyer wrote: »

I used to have a very sharp pen-knife as I did lots of sea going sports - it was kept with my [mini] tool box in my car, and taken on my person when at sea. However I decided to get rid as I've never actually needed it - thinking what trouble I would be in if I were stopped by the police.

Absolutly none

antrobus

goater78 wrote: »

... While the buyer will not be in violation of the 1959 act...

That's what I've been trying to tell you.

goater78 wrote: »

Depends how you carry it. If its just in your hold luggage I don't believe that violates the Aviation Security Act.

No, s4 of the Aviation Security Act 1982 - Offences in relation to certain dangerous articles - is pretty comprehensive, and simply refers to "baggage on a flight".

antrobus

F_T_Buyer wrote: »

I used to have a very sharp pen-knife as I did lots of sea going sports - it was kept with my [mini] tool box in my car, and taken on my person when at sea. However I decided to get rid as I've never actually needed it - thinking what trouble I would be in if I were stopped by the police....

Andy_L wrote: »

Absolutly none

Very likely. The CJA 1988 exempts 'folding pocketknives' where the 'cutting edge of the blade' does not exceed 3 inches in addition to the general 'good reason' defence.

System

antrobus wrote: »

That's what I've been trying to tell you.



No, s4 of the Aviation Security Act 1982 - Offences in relation to certain dangerous articles - is pretty comprehensive, and simply refers to "baggage on a flight".

I don't like it when people start selective quoting. I think its usually a sign that they've lost the plot a bit.

Also I am afraid your interpretation of the Aviation Security Act is wrong. You are allowed to take knives in your checked luggage as long as they are securely sheathed and can't cause any harm. Not allowing knives in checked luggage would be ridiculous.

System

These are the items you are not allowed to carry onto a plane in checked luggage. Knives are not on in...

Organic peroxides


Gas cylinders


Infectious substances


Wet car cell batteries


Instruments containing magnets


Instruments containing mercury


Magnetrons


Fireworks


Non-safety matches, fire lighters, lighter fuel


Paints, thinners


Poisons, arsenic, cyanide, weedkiller


Acids, corrosives, alkalis, caustic soda


Creosote, quicklime, oiled paper


Radioactive materials

antrobus

goater78 wrote: »

I don't like it when people start selective quoting. I think its usually a sign that they've lost the plot a bit.

Well maybe you don't like it. But it's only to try and save people the time and trouble to re-read reams of posts. Since post #63 I've just been making the point that the Restriction of Offensive Weapons Act 1959 does not make the simple possession of a flick knife an offence. You have spent some time trying to argue that was 'wrong' but are now apparently happy to accept the "the buyer will not be in violation of the 1959 act", which is the point I was making all along.

goater78 wrote: »

Also I am afraid your interpretation of the Aviation Security Act is wrong. You are allowed to take knives in your checked luggage as long as they are securely sheathed and can't cause any harm. Not allowing knives in checked luggage would be ridiculous.

Oh dear, here we go again! S4 of Aviation Security Act 1982 applies to "certain dangerous articles" and makes no distinction between checked and unchecked luggage, it only refers to articles forming part someone's baggage on a flight in an aircraft or in an areodrome. The authrorities appear to regard 'flick knives' as being "dangerous articles" and charge accordingly.

A case in point would be the experience of one Peter Michael Enguita who back in 2007 bought five 'novelty' flick knives come cigarette lighters in Thailand and put one in his hand luggage and four in his suitcase for the flight home. Customs discovered said items in his baggage, and he simply faced two charges of contravening ASA 1982, one for having dangerous articles in his hand luggage and another one for having dangerous articles in his hold luggage.

That's really the original point I was making regarding the importation of flick knives when travelling by air; if caught you're far more likely to be charged under the Aviation Security Act than anything else. That sort of thing happens from time to time, as it seems that some countries you can buy various novelty items featuring flick knives, and tourists sometimes pick these up as souvenirs only to be nabbed byCustoms when they return to the UK.

System

Now you're just making stuff up! The ASA lists the articles that they class as "dangerous articles" and not one of those articles is a knife.

The example you give was a man who was charged under ASA for the offense in the hand luggage however for the other 4 he was done for importing the knives into the country illegally. Also the knives he imported into the country were illegal knives (flick knives). Which violates the CJA. If the man had just had knives in his hold luggage that weren't illegal e.g. a lock knife he would not have had any problems getting them on the plane (as long as they are securely sheathed.