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Police Office Abusing his power and position

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  • antrobus
    antrobus Posts: 17,386 Forumite
    goater78 wrote: »
    I have read the act and i'm sorry but you are wrong. Please explain how its possible for someone to legally have obtained a flick knife in their house that they obtained after 1959? ...

    You're missing the point.

    The Act states that "Any person who manufactures, sells or hires or offers for sale or hire, or exposes or has in his possession for the purpose of sale or hire or lends or gives to any other person" is committing an offence. Simple possession isn't an offence, and the fact that a flick knife was acquired post 1959 might not have "legally been obtained" isn't relevant to the person who now owns it, because whilst the seller of said knife has commited an offence; the Act does not make it an offence to buy one.
  • System
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    antrobus wrote: »
    If you carried them onto a plane you'd be more likely to be charged under the Aviation Security Act as it happens. That Act doesn't have any restrictions regarding the blade length for one thing.

    Depends how you carry it. If its just in your hold luggage I don't believe that violates the Aviation Security Act.
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  • System
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    antrobus wrote: »
    You're missing the point.

    The Act states that "Any person who manufactures, sells or hires or offers for sale or hire, or exposes or has in his possession for the purpose of sale or hire or lends or gives to any other person" is committing an offence. Simple possession isn't an offence, and the fact that a flick knife was acquired post 1959 might not have "legally been obtained" isn't relevant to the person who now owns it, because whilst the seller of said knife has commited an offence; the Act does not make it an offence to buy one.

    I sense we're going round in circles. The reason why it is not illegal to possess a flick knife in your house is because before 1959 they were legal and it is difficult to retrospectively take them off people.

    The point of the act is that is makes obtaining a flick knife after 1959 (almost) impossible. Therefore if the police raid a house and find a flick knife they can confiscate it as there is reasonable suspicion that the knife has been obtained illegally. Whether you are the seller or buyer does not matter as it is still an illegal transaction. While the buyer will not be in violation of the 1959 act, he will still have the knife confiscasted as its been bought in violation of the act.
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  • Jamie_Cortez
    Jamie_Cortez Posts: 122 Forumite
    It is not an offense to own one. It is an offense to sell one or have one on your person with the intent to sell.
    Now if police search your house and find one, they are likely to seize it because they will have reason to believe that it has been obtained in an illegal manner.

    That said, if you are searched and have one on you in a public place, expect to have it seized from you if it is longer than 3 Inches.

    Which is mad really, unless its for a professional purpose it should not be in public.
  • System
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    It is not an offense to own one. It is an offense to sell one or have one on your person with the intent to sell.
    Now if police search your house and find one, they are likely to seize it because they will have reason to believe that it has been obtained in an illegal manner.

    That said, if you are searched and have one on you in a public place, expect to have it seized from you if it is longer than 3 Inches.

    Which is mad really, unless its for a professional purpose it should not be in public.

    It is illegal to have one on you in public.
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  • bod1467
    bod1467 Posts: 15,214 Forumite
    What "professional purpose" could a flick knife have? :huh:
  • System
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    bod1467 wrote: »
    What "professional purpose" could a flick knife have? :huh:

    I suppose you could be a maker of flick knives :)
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  • Jamie_Cortez
    Jamie_Cortez Posts: 122 Forumite
    bod1467 wrote: »
    What "professional purpose" could a flick knife have? :huh:

    Cutting down objects hanging from rope/tape but there other options available that perform that purpose better.
  • adouglasmhor
    adouglasmhor Posts: 15,554 Forumite
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    bod1467 wrote: »
    What "professional purpose" could a flick knife have? :huh:


    They were originaly invented for net fishermen so that they ould cut nets and lines with one hand if the other was trapped or holding onto a rail or another line. Better one handed openers are available now.
    The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head. Terry Pratchett


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  • Andy_L
    Andy_L Posts: 13,072 Forumite
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    bod1467 wrote: »
    What "professional purpose" could a flick knife have? :huh:

    Any "normal" professional purpose when somebody only has 1 hand
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