Police Office Abusing his power and position

ic31420

hotbanana wrote: »

Only allow police in if they have a signed search warrant. They can force their way in under other limited circumstances, but in that case, they wouldnt ask you anyway.

Not strictly true, but we wont argue.

In relation to police obtaining search warrants from court, it is important to understand the magistrate does not get to see a "dossier" or see full details of the intelligence a police officer "swears it out"

BobQ

If the knoves were legal and obtained for a legitimate reason I would write to the Chief Constable pointing out that you are concerned about the circumstances of the raid, the fact that nothing illegal was found, the fact that they came again and found nothing and the fact that he has no idea why he is being targetted as a law abiding citizen who has had no trouble with the police in the past (assuming all of this is true). Then suggest the CC explore the matter because you are concerned that this is verging on harrassment. You could then mention that your ex wife has a partner who is in the police force and that while you have no evidence the matters are connected you sometimes wonder about it.

In other words state your case in a reasonable way and let the CC decide what to do without making any specific accusations. If the CC office looks into it and they find there is real evidence on file (for example that his mate has been charged with importing illegal knives) then he will probably reply saying the matter has been investigated and he is satisfied police are behaving appropriately. If your ex's partner has abused his position this will probably make them back off at the very least.

F_T_Buyer

Hold on, who has not got knife's in their home?

Unless it's an illegal knife (flick knife), they've done no wrong. As he's not been charged, just complain to the police about the so called 'raid' and on what basis was it conducted. Don't mention this other officer, as you have no proof - it will soon get back to him if he did arrange it.

Flyboy152

F_T_Buyer wrote: »

Hold on, who has not got knife's in their home?

Unless it's an illegal knife (flick knife), they've done no wrong. As he's not been charged, just complain to the police about the so called 'raid' and on what basis was it conducted. Don't mention this other officer, as you have no proof - it will soon get back to him if he did arrange it.

Only if there is a paper trail to him. Quiet words in colleagues' ears are not written down anywhere.

F_T_Buyer

Flyboy152 wrote: »

Only if there is a paper trail to him. Quiet words in colleagues' ears are not written down anywhere.

I'm sure raids are not conducted on a whim.. firstly, did the Police have a warrant - if so what evidence was given for the warrant to be granted?

Or did an officer (or officers) just turn up and ask to look around - if so, complain about those officers!

Flyboy152

F_T_Buyer wrote: »

I'm sure raids are not conducted on a whim.. firstly, did the Police have a warrant - if so what evidence was given for the warrant to be granted?

Or did an officer (or officers) just turn up and ask to look around - if so, complain about those officers!

I didn't suggest that they were conducted on a whim, I was suggesting that the officer in question wasn't the one who organised the raid. All it would take is for him to have a quiet chat in the canteen with a few of his friends and it would all trickle up from there.

mo786uk

You do realsie we live in Britain? Where everything takes a form.

A simple RIPA request can take a 7 page form.

I would be very surprised is a warrant does not have a massive paper trail. I woudl suggest any PC obtaining a warrant has to get permission from their boss and of coruse they have to justify it to a magistrate.

Even if the magistrate was not shown every piece of intel there will be a paper trail somewhere showing on what basis the warrant was obtained.

The bottom lien is, if the Polcie said they had itnel to suggest knives were on the premises and they would have been illegal - if the Polcie the find knives on the premises, even if they were not illegal then the warrant would be classed as justified. You can't have a system where every warrant is unjust because what was being looked for was not found.

The issue is whether the intel justified a raid. It may well be that it did not but you can be sure there will be a trail somewhere.

MothballsWallet

Tina20 wrote: »

Ok, if this policeman was really abusing his power and mr knifey was totally innocent, they would kind of realise this eventually.

Police would keep investigating, finding nothing and would question the person supplying misleading 'intel'

So why complain?

Unless the knife people have something to hide, just leave the situation alone and eventually it will end. Policeman can't keep giving incorrect or false information without questions being asked.

Except, this is Britain - we're becoming more and more like America every day.

Dansmith__

If everything is legal, then he has nothing ro worry about does he. The best way is to let the police go about their business. Let them see there is nothing to hide. They wouldnt have taken these knives if they were ok..

bod1467

Dansmith__ wrote: »

They wouldnt have taken these knives if they were ok..

OP doesn't say that the knives were taken?