Toby Carvery charged sunday prices on a monday

POPPYOSCAR

YYamma wrote: »

To be honest, this is a lesson learned. Toby Carvery is just a scam really.

All their vegetables are bought in and some of the meat is just soya and fat pumped with water to make it look like a proper roast. If you fall for their trickery, you deserve everything you get.

Do most restaurants grow their own then??????:)

System

Azari wrote: »

Congratulations.

Three posts and you've said nothing more than that you don't agree - and have made no attempt to explain what you seem to think you know.

We'll just have to wait and see what happens when TS gets back to OP.

I think they've got back to him already and it wasn't positive. Hopefully the op will report back properly today

POPPYOSCAR

goater78 wrote: »

I think they've got back to him already and it wasn't positive. Hopefully the op will report back properly today

Yes, funny how OP said they had a long phone call with them but not what was said.

Azari

Equaliser123 wrote: »

And quoted gibberish in terms of law.

Equaliser123 wrote: »

I have to say, that is utter tripe.

Equaliser123 wrote: »

I think you misunderstood some of the lectures.

Anyway, this isn't about blaming your lecturer.

Apologies for responding to the same post twice, but this is quite interesting.

You've made three virtually content-less posts - in that they say nothing substantive.

Perhaps you'd care to enlighten us as you must have a pretty impressive grasp of contract law.

1) Is the large sign outside the restaurant not an invitation to treat? If not, why not?

2) Is the customer indicating that they want the deal advertised not an acceptance of that offer? If not why not.

3) Does the restaurant's agreement to provide the food not signal their acceptance of the contract? If not, why not?

4) Can you point to either statute or case law that defines under what circumstances the terms of the initial offer can be varied without being explicitly drawn to the customers attention? If so perhaps you'd care to explain the rules as to what they need to do to have been deemed to have made these variations known.


I'm sure we'll all benefit from you undoubted wisdom in these matters so, thanks in advance.

juliusceasor

Going4TheDream wrote: »

In all fairness tourists are much more likely to ask the price before buying,

Not if the sign was as clear as it was

Which seems clear to me Mon-Sat any time it is open the price is £5.95

Going4TheDream wrote: »

hat that has to do with you beinng caught out because you didnt realise it was a public holiday and some where was closed I have no idea!

who was caught out with somewhere being closed?

POPPYOSCAR

So if Christmas Day fell on a mon-fri would you expect them to take down the sign or charge the same price?

We all know Bank holiday mondays are different to monday.

What has happened to personal responsibility? If I saw menus showing a different price than I expected on the table I would query it.

It seems to me that these days it is always the responsibility of someone else and that some think we should be treated like idiots and have everything set out for us so we do not even have to think.

juliusceasor

Going4TheDream wrote: »

I find it laughable that someone is making such a fuss over a few quid on a meal, and unless the OP is a 'crusader for others' then lets keep it in proportion.

I think the OP posted a reasonable post, the issue became over extended by opinion and speculation over the legal position.

Going4TheDream wrote: »

I get the point that perhaps he should have been informed and wasnt or the signs were not clear or so he says, invitation to treat and all that.

Good some one gets the heart of the issue here.

Going4TheDream wrote: »

But really, this incident was over two weeks ago, any one seriously agrieved by it all would have been on the phone day one and getting it sorted with the company.

Not makiing out it is the biggest swindle since we stopped using the gold standard or something.

but then kind of loses it again?
The OP may have been away on holiday may have been sick, it is only two weeks, I don't think it has a statute of limitations on it, granted an argument can become weaker with time, but perhaps the OP sought advice or felt that despite a small amount of money for some it may well not be and it is the principle of the law. Either it was clear or it wasn't.

Going4TheDream wrote: »

I would imagine this is a very isolated incident as seemingly most poters on here are aware of the sunday prices on bank holiday monday thing, which would lead

Again most, perhaps a vocal few, but are you implying then that on any Bank Holiday Monday you are prepared a premium even if one is due? Because you are expecting one? Perhaps next time you are in a restaurant that doesn't charge a premium on a Bank Holiday you would be prepared to give the premium along with any deserved tip to the waiter, it would be no extra cost you weren't expecting!

juliusceasor

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

So if Christmas Day fell on a mon-fri would you expect them to take down the sign or charge the same price?

No I wouldn't I would expect them to have a clear price displayed indicating a variation to the normal charge. As is normal around these particular dates anyway.

Unless the OP was directed to a change in the advertised price by a/several clear signs or preferably the waiter drawing his/her attention to the fact, then it's a clear breach of the law, which is what should be being discussed here not opinion.

Why can't posters read the legislation and case law and then answer their own random opinion based thoughts.

Azari

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

So if Christmas Day fell on a mon-fri would you expect them to take down the sign or charge the same price?

Oh, !!!!!!!

No. The sign should do what just about everyone else does in these situations. State: "Mondays to Saturdays (except bank holidays)"

Problem solved. It really is that obvious.

We all know Bank holiday mondays are different to monday.

What has happened to personal responsibility? If I saw menus showing a different price than I expected on the table I would query it.

It seems to me that these days it is always the responsibility of someone else and that some think we should be treated like idiots and have everything set out for us so we do not even have to think.

Sorry, Poppy, you are talking complete and utter rubbish.

The company put up a sign that makes a completely clear and unambiguous offer. What was placed on the sign was completely their responsibility. They had complete freedom to state clearly what they actually wanted to offer. It is their responsibility to make the sign clear, complete, and unambiguous.

And yet by some weird and perverted piece of logic you start ranting about the 'personal responsibility' of the customer, despite their simply reading and acting on what they were told by the company.

I would suggest that you have a very careful think about logic because it is flying in the face of all reason. If you believe that people can put up signs that clearly state one thing when they mean another, where is the line drawn?

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POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

So if Christmas Day fell on a mon-fri would you expect them to take down the sign or charge the same price?

I'd expect them to have a different sign up, saying the Christmas day price. Then, when they took my booking, to tell me what the price would be.

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

We all know Bank holiday mondays are different to monday.

No we don't, and no they aren't. Some places may choose to operate differently on a bank holiday, others do not.

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

What has happened to personal responsibility? If I saw menus showing a different price than I expected on the table I would query it.

It seems to me that these days it is always the responsibility of someone else and that some think we should be treated like idiots and have everything set out for us so we do not even have to think.

Why should a customer have to assume that everything they see is incorrect?