vcs/excel get their !!!!!! kicked

AltheHibby

Judge McIlwaine is a cool dude with a great way of making threats. Brilliant!

bargepole

WageSlave1 wrote: »

... Do you think that the poor girl understood that when the judge said she ought to bring her toothbrush he wasn't offering to whisk her off to Paris for a weekend of unbridled lawyerly lovemaking ?

Would that involve getting into her briefs? (gets coat)

AltheHibby

bargepole,

I don't think her briefs would be that attractive after the fright she got!

Coupon-mad

''I cannot help but wonder if now you are going to be reading about yourself on the internet.''

...said the judge at the end. I think that's quite telling, he seems to know quite a lot about it all, wonder if he ever had a look at these forums? I think the judge started with an agenda in this case...possibly because of the previous case with Martin Cutts where S R-S slagged off the judge afterwards. If you read this case it seems to me that Mr Ibbotson didn't actually question VCS' right to act there nor their right to bring a case. The judge just plucked it out of the air and set about demolishing the case and VCS in general.

Love it!

:rotfl:

LincolnshireYokel

AltheHibby wrote: »

2 quick bits of advice for the BPA:

Use English spell checkers, not America's version of English.

Using a spell checker of any flavour would be an improvement in most cases

LincolnshireYokel

trisontana wrote: »

Here is the actual court judgement from Lincolnshire:-

yes, we dont eff about with bloodysoutherners like Simon Rancid Sh*te here in the wolds, common sense tends to prevail.

Stephen_Leak

AlexisV wrote: »

Renshaw-Smith had until 4pm today to submit his statement.

trisontana wrote: »

Simon Renshaw-Smith should have appeared in court on June 29. Is there any news on that?

Has anyone seen him in the last fortnight? Was he at the AGM?

dacouch

If I ever get a PPC Invoice and it goes to court, I might relocate to Sucnthorpe so the case could be transferred to Judge McIlwaine

Driver8

peter_the_piper wrote: »

The text of the case is here, courtesy of pepipoo.
http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=16231
Some parts are hilarious. Could not see its been posted before, if it has let me know and I'll delete it.

Reading that as given me the best laugh i have had in ages.

I would love to know what Mr [EMAIL="Ibbotson@s"]Ibbotson's[/EMAIL] e mail said and he apologised for what it said and i can imagine it was a few choice words.

I also liked, i left a car and you left a purse i want £80 :rotfl:

The Judge was brilliant in the case and if i had been there would not have been able to keep a straight face.

taxiphil

Coupon-mad wrote: »

''I cannot help but wonder if now you are going to be reading about yourself on the internet.''

...said the judge at the end. I think that's quite telling, he seems to know quite a lot about it all, wonder if he ever had a look at these forums? I think the judge started with an agenda in this case...possibly because of the previous case with Martin Cutts where S R-S slagged off the judge afterwards. If you read this case it seems to me that Mr Ibbotson didn't actually question VCS' right to act there nor their right to bring a case. The judge just plucked it out of the air and set about demolishing the case and VCS in general.

Love it!

:rotfl:

I quite agree; Judge McIlwaine certainly seems to have an agenda and has alluded to a cheeky interest in internet forums. The consipracy theorist in me thinks that this was intended as a bloody nose in return for S-R-S's well publicised comments about District Judge Lateef in the Martin Cutts case.

In terms of "natural justice" this makes for a delightful read. But on a wider note I do find it deeply worrying that a judge can turn the whole case upon his own moral prejudice and give one party such a savaging. Despite our contempt on this forum towards PPCs, I'm not the first person on this thread to feel some degree of sympathy for the PPC's representatives in this matter; I do feel that Judge McIlwaine's threat of imprisonment was a step too far and goes beyond the rules of the game.

There's also the fact that our legal system is supposed to be adversarial, and so the judge should only consider the issues of law that are presented to them by each party. It's quite a concern, then, that the judge went to town on an issue of law that the defendant never even raised (as Coupon Mad has pointed out).

Let's not forget that an unfair legal system can cut both ways and if we are to applaud maverick judges, we must also accept the age-old British tradition that maverick judges usually have a bias in favour of the corporation, and against the man in the street. In other words, let's pause for a moment and consider our outrage if the innocent motorist had been on the receiving end of such a mauling.

If there's one thing I'll be taking from this case, it's that county court judges are loose cannons.

P.S. Judge McIlwayne is very much a new kid on the block, having been appointed last August and only beginning his practice as a solicitor in 1997 - quite a meteoric rise to fame. Maybe the Ministry of Justice were just struggling to find anyone prepared to work in the Humberside region.

P.P.S. Does anyone know who funded the transcript? It must have cost a few hundred quid.