Tyre Damage - is it safe to drive

mikey72

No, it's only been you on here so far. No one else is anywhere near as worrying.

LordSVS

Notmyrealname wrote: »

Rubbish.



So you bleat on about safety then tell them to go get a teflon tyre fitted which will be worse than what they have on now.

Unbelievable.

Personally IMO if you've got the cheapest budget tyres on your car you need to get them changed for something that will actually stop in the wet and go round corners because to use your own words, you're not only putting yourself (and whoever else in the car), in danger, but you're also putting me and my family in danger. If you're behind me and I need to stop quickly, you'll take far further to stop than I do.

You love to spout tosh, don't you.

I said he/she should get the tyre replaced with a cheap £40 one, not a dangerous one. Lordy.

You'll be amazed how good £40 tyres are!! My company used to get £80 tyres (well, we got them for £45 because of bulk purchasing), but they sold for £80 in Kwikfit!

Lord SVS

alastairq

No, it's only been you on here so far. No one else is anywhere near as worrying.

If I really cared, I'd find pretty much all the other opinion regarding driver skills on here as 'worrying'...an over-excess of drama and misinformed opinion.

But hey, crack-on, folks....I'll refrain from saying 'told you so'..........and I won't go away, even if I do rattle a few cages here and there.................,

mikey72

alastairq wrote: »

If I really cared, I'd find pretty much all the other opinion regarding driver skills on here as 'worrying'...an over-excess of drama and misinformed opinion.

But hey, crack-on, folks....I'll refrain from saying 'told you so'..........and I won't go away, even if I do rattle a few cages here and there.................,

Keep rattling the cage. So long as you don't get the door open, I'm more re-assured.

Joe_Horner

Been sitting back and enjoying the show here for a while but I've got to agree to a point with alastairq. Not about whether or not he can stop faster than anyone here - that's a pretty unprovable claim from either side - but on the question of where exactly are all these emergency stops that need the best rubber going happening???

The last emergency stop I had to do was back in 1985, on my test. Since then I've had some pretty hairy moments caused by myself and others but I've NEVER had to jam the anchors on to the point of locking the wheels in the dry, wet, snow or anywhere else.

Hell, I've even driven from Birmingham to Colchester with a burst brake pipe and knowing I only had a handbrake and maybe two applications of the fronts to rely on before I ran out of fluid. So I allowed for the slightly increased stopping distance, thought even further ahead than usual, and got there without coming even close to squshing any nuns, children or fluffy puppies.

And that was WITH all the idiotic things people were doing around me like tailgating, cutting in front within a couple of feet of me then putting their brakes on, and all the other things you see out there every day.

Lum

The question isn't so much "where" as "if".

I like to keep as many options open to me as reasonably possible not just think "I'm perfect, I will never go wrong, therefore I don't need any contingency".

The fact that they make the car more fun on country drives is a nice side effect too!

Joe_Horner

Yep, that's a perfectly fine attitude Lum, and in that context good rubber is good. But the suggestions that keep cropping up round here that people who use cheap but legal tyres are one step up from baby killers is absurd.

In 27 years I've honestly never had to test my tyres or brakes to anywhere near the limit. As I say, I've made mistakes and I've had plenty made around me, but I've always been in a position to avoid them escalating to an emergency. Hopefully I also haven't made the same mistakes twice.

Maybe that's blind luck but I honestly believe that attitude on the road - especially keeping plenty of space around you (especially in front) and, if someone encroaches, create more no matter how annoying it is - goes a long way to creating that luck, which I think is the point alastairq has been trying to make.

Lum

I think the attitude you refer to comes from the various threads posted by people to whom a car is just a tool and have no actual interest or enjoyment in driving. People who using Alistairq's model you'd describe as unconsciously incompetent.

Those are the ones who are going to be the most dangerous if they drive around on Linglongs, and maybe a little bit less dangerous if they drive around on something decent.

mikey72

Lum wrote: »

I think the attitude you refer to comes from the various threads posted by people to whom a car is just a tool and have no actual interest or enjoyment in driving. People who using Alistairq's model you'd describe as unconsciously incompetent.

Those are the ones who are going to be the most dangerous if they drive around on Linglongs, and maybe a little bit less dangerous if they drive around on something decent.

I don't think regarding the car as a tool is stage 1, more like stage 3. They understand what it is, what it does, and what the limitations are. A blind belief you must be a better driver, because you have a better brand tyre, is stage 1, and unconsiously incompetent.

Lum

mikey72 wrote: »

I don't think regarding the car as a tool is stage 1, more like stage 3. They understand what it is, what it does, and what the limitations are.

I doubt that last part. The people I'm thinking of have never taken their car anywhere near it's limits and think that because they can pootle between their home and office every day without incident that's all there is to know about driving.