Teacher is lying

concerned43

Bloody hell - you really are a judgemental lot! first of all:-
CAMHS has said my DS DOES NOT have ASD/Aspergers!
My DS has a statement at school and attends their special needs unit for extra support, this unit is funded by the Catholic church through gift aid and donations and very little to do with the local authority, hence not subject to a 'diagnosis'.
My DS (and I) DID NOT want to be assessed for Autism as his labels for dyslexia and dyspraxia have led him to be a target of bulling, inappropriate support from the school and makes him feel 'stupid'
My complaints regarding CAMHS have not had a detrimental effect on receiving further treatment - he has been moved to another clinic whereby I am assured he will receive treatment from someone who is qualified this time!!
I fully understand why parents would want a diagnosis and that is their prerogative, however what's right for some is not necessary right for all!
All I want is for my DS to have an anxiety free education and this will only be achieved if the school works with me rather than against me, which is impossible, not because of a lack of a statement, but because the Head thinks she knows best - when in reality knows !!!! all!
And finally, all those suggesting that I refuse to take a diagnosis from CAMHS - yes your right I am, not because I take their diagnosis personally but because it came from people who are not qualified to diagnose!
Tell me, if you went into hospital because you were suffering from chest pains and felt you were having a heart attack, only to be told it was indigestion and then to be told that the person who diagnosed you was an auxiliary nurse who had no qualifications to assess or diagnose - would you just shrug your shoulders and walk away clutching your chest as you do so? doubt it! So why then judge me when I question the validity of a diagnosis from a person at CAMHS who has no qualifications in assessing or diagnosing either ASD or attachment issues?

Nicki

I'm not very sure what you want from this thread to be honest OP, but whatever it is it is clear you aren't getting it and are getting upset, so maybe it might be an idea to ask for it to be closed.

I am sorry you found my posts to be judgmental. I tried very hard not to be, and in my own mind was not judging you in the slightest, just trying to discuss the issues you have raised calmly from my own perspective as the mum of a disabled child. Most of those who also posted on the thread also have either children or grandchildren with disabilities so were discussing it from the position of how the system worked for them and their children.

I'd be surprised now that the thread has been open for a few days if you got any different kinds of responses though, so perhaps it's time to walk away from this discussion rather than get more upset?

daska

concerned43 wrote: »

Bloody hell - you really are a judgemental lot! first of all:-
CAMHS has said my DS DOES NOT have ASD/Aspergers!
My DS has a statement at school and attends their special needs unit for extra support, this unit is funded by the Catholic church through gift aid and donations and very little to do with the local authority, hence not subject to a 'diagnosis'.
My DS (and I) DID NOT want to be assessed for Autism as his labels for dyslexia and dyspraxia have led him to be a target of bulling, inappropriate support from the school and makes him feel 'stupid'
My complaints regarding CAMHS have not had a detrimental effect on receiving further treatment - he has been moved to another clinic whereby I am assured he will receive treatment from someone who is qualified this time!!
I fully understand why parents would want a diagnosis and that is their prerogative, however what's right for some is not necessary right for all!
All I want is for my DS to have an anxiety free education and this will only be achieved if the school works with me rather than against me, which is impossible, not because of a lack of a statement, but because the Head thinks she knows best - when in reality knows !!!! all!
And finally, all those suggesting that I refuse to take a diagnosis from CAMHS - yes your right I am, not because I take their diagnosis personally but because it came from people who are not qualified to diagnose!
Tell me, if you went into hospital because you were suffering from chest pains and felt you were having a heart attack, only to be told it was indigestion and then to be told that the person who diagnosed you was an auxiliary nurse who had no qualifications to assess or diagnose - would you just shrug your shoulders and walk away clutching your chest as you do so? doubt it! So why then judge me when I question the validity of a diagnosis from a person at CAMHS who has no qualifications in assessing or diagnosing either ASD or attachment issues?

TBH it sounds to me as if your son would be better off at a different school. I've just moved DS2 on the back of his statement and the two main reasons were that the Head was hostile and the SENCO inept. He is far happier there and calmer as a result.

P.S. I am actually sat here surrounded by folders of paperwork trying to find the bits we need for the appeal against the provision in the statement. I know it's not a walk in the park but, with a statement you have that option.

duchy

I think the right (or wrong) school can make a huge difference. Just because a school has a unit doesn't mean it's the best school for YOUR child (It wasn't for us)

I honestly don't understand you obsession with labeling -Your son is having difficulties -an assessment now he's older may be more helpful -Really it doesn't matter what label is put -a good school will look at the difficulties a child is having not the label (which is only useful to get funding in reality) a poor school won't or will think "one size fits all". Your son isn't a different person because of a label. My son "has Aspergers" it doesn't define who he is and we take the attitude that "He has AS it doesn't have him".

If your not getting appropriate support then perhaps a whole new approach might offer better options for him .

davehills

concerned43 wrote: »

I know she is lying because I was at the meeting and heard what she said, the minutes reflect that she said it and she is denying it

So..you are saying that the HT denies saying something which is minuted?

What I would do, in your situation, is write back to the board of governors, pointing out this apparent anomaly and ask them to re-evaluate their decision.

davehills

duchy wrote: »

I honestly don't understand you obsession with labeling -Your son is having difficulties -an assessment now he's older may be more helpful -Really it doesn't matter what label is put -a good school will look at the difficulties a child is having not the label (which is only useful to get funding in reality) a poor school won't or will think "one size fits all". Your son isn't a different person because of a label. My son "has Aspergers" it doesn't define who he is and we take the attitude that "He has AS it doesn't have him".

I agree. First consideration must be for the welfare of the child.

Being able to apply a 'tag' to whatever the issue is probably won't help. Indeed it could lead to the child being 'pidgeonholed' and could make the situation worse.

poet123

davehills wrote: »

I agree. First consideration must be for the welfare of the child.

Being able to apply a 'tag' to whatever the issue is probably won't help. Indeed it could lead to the child being 'pidgeonholed' and could make the situation worse.

Not if that tag is the passport to the official help the child requires to progress at school and in society.

I agree that label are not always beneficial or even true;) but when they are warranted they can be invaluable as a passport to the services that are out there.

peachyprice

davehills wrote: »

Being able to apply a 'tag' to whatever the issue is probably won't help. Indeed it could lead to the child being 'pidgeonholed' and could make the situation worse.

The problem is, that the child WILL be labelled, but incorrectly. He will be considered naughty, difficult, unmanageable etc., instead of being understood as a child with a recognisable condition.

daska

poet123 wrote: »

Not if that tag is the passport to the official help the child requires to progress at school and in society.

I agree that label are not always beneficial or even true;) but when they are warranted they can be invaluable as a passport to the services that are out there.

Absolutely. Our local council's children's disability services refuse to assess children without a diagnosis - so not having a 'label' can effectively rule out any chance of support from them.

No matter, only another 2 months on the ASD pre-assessment waiting list to find out whether DS2 gets put on the 12 month waiting list for assessment...

choccybuttons

Had a quick read. Would it be worth having an independent referral and have the assessment carried out by someone else?