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Benefits for new parents
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if people are buying tabs, fake tans, mobile contracts, beer, drugs, designer clothes etc with the money they get BECAUSE they have kids, then that IS misusing their benefit money.
If they don't want to spend the difference they get from a single person claim to a person with kids claim, ON/FOR the kids, then they should stop claiming for the kids.When your life is a mess, stop and think what you are doing before bringing more kids into it, it's not fair on them.
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Well me and my partner do not smoke or take drugs, we rarely go out unless with the children, we have a simple basic house, I am as pale as a sheet of paper we both have contract phones though (£20 each pm) and I also get my hair done every 8 weeks. I do not feel guilty about claiming the money as it does tend to go on my children, they have a playroom stocked with toys, a tv freeview and dvd player in there they have loads of dvds. they have a trampoline bikes scooters the lot. They also have a computer for there educational games.0
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Not to mention far too many clothes. we aim to take them to cornwall once a year. so yes we do alot get benefit from the money but as most parents will say our children always come first there needs are the most important!0
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when one is working full time, the other is part time and there is money from a rental property coming in every month, there is no need what so ever for £500+ per month from the government.
Hopefully the Gov will be looking into slashing the tax credit money they shell out in the same vein as the disability benefitsWhen your life is a mess, stop and think what you are doing before bringing more kids into it, it's not fair on them.
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Ellejmorgan wrote: »That's lovely til your husband leaves you or you end up with a permanant disability..
I used to own my own home and hubby had a 40k pa job, i'm now a lone parent in a council house..i'm also disabled..
No matter what job i'd ever done, what house i'd owned i'd still be on benefits..
Some people can't avoid it and if you don't understand it then you've not been in the situation..
People do not choose to be on benefits..they have to..
You didn't actually read what I wrote, did you? I questioned why people that did not need benefits still claimed them, so what you have written is completely irrelevant ... and actually contradicts what Mumto3FutureBenefitClaimants said!
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My rental property has made only £1000 this tax year and my own income (due to being on mat leave) is also very low. We make no money from the house we let out and only decided to keep it as it has been in my partners family for 3 generations now. It would effect our claim next year but not majorly and if this is the case i will happily receive less. We are however selling the property due to letting problems we just cant be dealing with the stress. I only take what I am offered as anyone would. These forums are for advice and not for critisim of policy as you will read a couple of threads above!0
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mynameistallulah wrote: »You didn't actually read what I wrote, did you? I questioned why people that did not need benefits still claimed them, so what you have written is completely irrelevant ... and actually contradicts what Mumto3FutureBenefitClaimants said!
How do you know my boys are going to be benefit claimants? They may get tax credits but they will most certainly be encouraged to work! How dare you make such an accusation that cannot even be proven for at least over 10 years!0 -
Mumto3cheekymonkeys wrote: »How do you know my boys are going to be benefit claimants? They may get tax credits but they will most certainly be encouraged to work! How dare you make such an accusation that cannot even be proven for at least over 10 years!
Those who claim benefits by choice (as you admit to doing), breed those that go on to do the same - fact. 0 -
Miss M, not that I agree with all your critics on here, but I do think you exhibit wilful blindness sometimes!
Yes Sixer: I get it that you are ones who think the parent should be given their child's welfare payments to spend; you have made that quite clear before and again below....People take exception to your posts because you say CTC is INTENDED to pay for specific child costs. They respond by telling you that they use in the manner it's actually intended to be used - for HOUSEHOLD costs where that household has children.
"People"? I think you underestimate how many parents do actually spend the child's welfare payments solely on their children. It's the children of the other "people" who see their child's welfare money as "their" money, that needs to be addressed. Thankfully, it's being done too. New money to help children out of poverty is not going to be given to the parents; it's being planned that this money will be going on projects that directly benefit the child and not into their parents pockets.This is and has always been the intention behind CTC.
As you have been told before, Blair chose tax credits as "vote winner"; children don't have a vote. His minister that was put in charge of getting children out of poverty, resigned when Blair chose his vote winning tax credits. That same ex minister is now using his ideas to help children in poverty through this government and those ideas don't inculde giving more money to parents.I wish you would distinguish between what actually is the case and what you believe should be the case.
The case is quite clear, as you have confirmed again in your post. There are parents who use their child's money for the whole household to spend and perhaps see this money as a state reward for having a child? Then there are those who just use this money on their children.
We are never going to agree on this. You are one of the parents who think your child's welfare payments should be given to you for your household budget and I think it should we should use the child's welfare money to help the child out of poverty (and it turn help their children) via projects that will help these children while they are young and support them as they grow. We know that giving the child's welfare payments to parents doesn't work for all children.
This 'born poor, stay poor' attitude, just isn't true. We can help all the children at a very young age through projects to ensure that every child who lives in poverty gets the help they need and ensure that the child actually benefits from their state help.RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.0 -
mynameistallulah wrote: »Those who claim benefits by choice (as you admit to doing), breed those that go on to do the same - fact.
You make it sound like me and my partner dont earn a wage. Are you entitled to TC?0
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