Parking in mother and child space

Riversong

adouglasmhor wrote: »

Learn to drive properly and pick a better space.

And what abotout the incosiderate souls who park too close? Can she control that?

adouglasmhor

Riversong wrote: »

That's fine but don't be surprised if you get a ticket for not having an under 12 with you (assuming you dont). I do not condone mums parking in disabled spaces or visca versa, just the rules.

You won't get a "ticket" you will get an unenforceable invoice for breaking a contract to which you have not legally agreed. You can ignore it and all the threatening letters which follow it with impunity. Unless you like paying thieves and con artists.

Riversong

adouglasmhor wrote: »

You won't get a "ticket" you will get an unenforceable invoice for breaking a contract to which you have not legally agreed. You can ignore it and all the threatening letters which follow it with impunity. Unless you like paying thieves and con artists.

Really? You chose to break the rules. If you are capable enough of making that choice then you're more than capable of being punished accordingly. the spaces are there for a reason and it is disrespectful of you to take them up when you're not with a child. (If you do travel with kids then apologies in advance)

adouglasmhor

Riversong wrote: »

And what abotout the incosiderate souls who park too close? Can she control that?

How would that affect getting her child out? In maybe but not out.

adouglasmhor

Riversong wrote: »

Really? You chose to break the rules. If you are capable enough of making that choice then you're more than capable of being punished accordingly. the spaces are there for a reason and it is disrespectful of you to take them up when you're not with a child. (If you do travel with kids then apologies in advance)

Yes really the rules are set in law not in the opinions of supermarket management and the opinions of people like you. You could find out the law on the subject yourself on this very site or you can spout your opinions as fact. But the law is set by courts and governments and you can not be made to pay a penalty. Tough if you don’t like it, those are the rules.
I only use the parent and child spaces after eleven at night anyway when most of them are empty and I can’t be bothered walking across a huge car park in the dark.

Riversong

adouglasmhor wrote: »

How would that affect getting her child out? In maybe but not out.

Sooo? It is still very difficult, do you think it is magically easier to get a child back in the car? They still need the same space, the kid may still tantrum/flail. The mother may also need to climb in if they have a 3 door. Your point is invalid and splitting hairs.

mrcow

Tina20 wrote: »

And it is very hard to get pram out, wheel to side of car, open door wide, unplug baby, wrestle with straps round car seat, get baby out of car seat without banging childs head on roof, close car door take her to pram, plug her in safely. Then I need to get my changing bag.
What do I do with baby?
Leave her by the side of the car? Easy to do this in a P&C space as you can keep her by your side.

Is this a genuine question? If so, it's a little worrying that you're in charge of a minor but don't know how to safely get them out of a car.

Get your stuff sorted out first, then get the kid out of the car. Never leave a baby in a pram in the middle of a car park to go back and get your bag.

If you can't get your child out of a 1/2 opened car door without banging their head, then eithe you have one enormous bay there or you need to pay more attenton to what you're doing.

Seriously, you're making a whole load of fuss about nothing.

mildred1978

adouglasmhor wrote: »

Learn to drive properly and pick a better space.

I can drive and park perfectly well thank you (including parallel parking in a space 6 inches bigger than the car). It's the idiots who can't park properly, coupled with the space's width not being sufficient (and I even have my son on the offside so that I only have to open doors one side) that's the issue.

Riversong

adouglasmhor wrote: »

Yes really the rules are set in law not in the opinions of supermarket management and the opinions of people like you. You could find out the law on the subject yourself on this very site or you can spout your opinions as fact. But the law is set by courts and governments and you can not be made to pay a penalty. Tough if you don’t like it, those are the rules.
I only use the parent and child spaces after eleven at night anyway when most of them are empty and I can’t be bothered walking across a huge car park in the dark.

After hours is fine, children under 12 should be in bed! so i agree with you there.

No what I don't like is the attitude that disabled people are somehow above all us lowly able bodied folk. Plus this thread is to invite opinion and debate, that is what I am providing. My point of view.

mumps

Riversong wrote: »

If they were that severe they would have help or aids with them to assist. i mean come on you would have to walk round the shop for example how is that different to the car park?

As I said earlier there is no aid that helps with the pain my husband suffers. Even if we park close to the door of the supermarket he never makes it all the way round, has to go and sit in the coffee bar when the pain gets too much. If we have to park further away he probably ends up going straight to the coffee bar. Parents can put their baby or toddler in a buggy or sitting in a trolley so they do have aids to help them get round.

For the life of me I don't understand why anyone with a child over 5 would need a P & C space. If I was out with a little one and felt I needed a P & C space and saw someone with an 11 year old using one I would wonder why. My son was nearly 6 foot by the time he was 12 so as a fit healthy strapping lad who could undo his seat belt and get out without assistance I can't think why he would need a special space. Maybe supermarkets should look at this as it would make it easier for parents with young children get a space.